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Old 08-24-2012, 06:46 AM
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Thanks all. The dealer has fitted the bolt with flat vertical. I will try again. I assume by "sideways" you mean feeding the flat part of the loop from the side of the hook? I have been trying something similar ( I think!). Anyway since you both have managed this I will try again over weekend until I get this figured out.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:01 PM
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Update. Well, I managed to get strap on and off. I now understand the sideways comment!
It is still extremely difficult and i'm not sure how it will go when I really need it. Getting it off seems harder than on because of the front bolt head holding the strap as you try and ease it back. While I could fit it from the front, the only way I could find to remove easily was to take off the quick releases on bumper bottom and reach under to ease the strap over the bolt head (those of you that have done this will understand what I am talking about, I think).
I might look at whether it is possible to put something around bolt head (that could be removed if needed) to form a "ramp" eg fiberglass resin.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. I was originally on the wrong track trying to fit it.
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:14 AM
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Update. Well, I managed to get strap on and off. I now understand the sideways comment!
It is still extremely difficult and i'm not sure how it will go when I really need it. Getting it off seems harder than on because of the front bolt head holding the strap as you try and ease it back. While I could fit it from the front, the only way I could find to remove easily was to take off the quick releases on bumper bottom and reach under to ease the strap over the bolt head (those of you that have done this will understand what I am talking about, I think).
I might look at whether it is possible to put something around bolt head (that could be removed if needed) to form a "ramp" eg fiberglass resin.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. I was originally on the wrong track trying to fit it.
I was thinking of grinding a bevel on the head of the bolt but with practice I now feel fairly confident at getting the loop on and off. The loop has lost its new and softenned so it's easier now. I have a Just Straps 8,100kg strap.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:13 AM
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

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Just wondering if its possible to do a DIY on the installation of the retro recovery hook. If not, what sort of prices should I be paying for a dealership install. Many thanks.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:21 AM
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

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Just wondering if its possible to do a DIY on the installation of the retro recovery hook. If not, what sort of prices should I be paying for a dealership install. Many thanks.
Yeah mate, DIY all the way.

Take off the bottom part of the bumper and you have full access. It's a little tight for one of the bolts (couldn't get my torque wrench in for that one only) but I fitted it within an hour.

I sourced it from Northern Motor Group on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Jeep-WK-G...#ht_1528wt_730

I notice the price is now $360+ delivery. I paid $322 + $20 postage (arrived next day as I'd spoke to them about delivery)

It's expensive for what it is - must be the cost of getting it ADR approved!

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Old 09-06-2012, 04:52 PM
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

I noticed in with my spare and jack kit there is a threaded eye bolt that screws into the front recovery position, is this not suficient? I assume all MY12 vehicles have this?

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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

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Just wondering if its possible to do a DIY on the installation of the retro recovery hook. If not, what sort of prices should I be paying for a dealership install. Many thanks.
I fitted mine yesterday after the hook was supplied by my dealer free of charge - did have to wait a fair while tho and finally chased him up.
As previously stated, unclip the lower front shround and pull forward to release the tabs (mine were fairly tight and took some working) to get access.
The hook goes on the LH side and I let some of the fasteners on the fibre deflector and the wheel liner go as well, to get my hand up the back.
The bolts are fiddly to get in as access is restricted but doable. Metric spanners/sockets 10mm, 13mm and 17mm are needed.
Check your strap will fit into the eye before you fit it up. There is only 18mm gap between the hook and the edge of the front fixing bolt. Once the front dam is replaced the hook is buried and if your strap loop is a tight fit you'll never get it on (or off). The back of the hook could be relieved a bit but my strap will fit with a bit of jiggling.
Read other posts for background and preparation.
I would expect at least an hour quote from a dealer - I took about that long from a standing start, and with poodling around. If you had done them before it would be a 30 min job. If you're not handy or don't have the tools - use the dealer or a mate.
Part number from the box is K8220WKRH - WK R/Hook & Brkt PED SAFE
From the photo you'll get an idea of the finished product.
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And for AdamT - the supplied eye is NOT rated and definitely not suitable (positively dangerous!) for snatch strap recovery - hence all the hassle. Plenty of background in previous posts.
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

Great info John47.

I might see if I can take mine off an chop 5 - 10mm from the end of the hook so that getting the snatch strap on an off is easier.

What we need is an aftermarket hook that is a better design.
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I noticed in with my spare and jack kit there is a threaded eye bolt that screws into the front recovery position, is this not suficient? I assume all MY12 vehicles have this?

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Hey Adam,

The threaded eye bolt is not recovery rated and should only be used for a simple tow. There might be some mention of this earlier in the thread as well. The general view is that if the eye bolt is used in a recovery situation it could just become a projectile once it breaks free.
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Sorry Adam. I didn't see that John47 had already answered your question.
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

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I might see if I can take mine off an chop 5 - 10mm from the end of the hook so that getting the snatch strap on an off is easier.

What we need is an aftermarket hook that is a better design.
I think the hook design was influenced by getting it into the space available and still hiding it behind the bumper and so complying with Ped Regs....
If the hook was larger or with a bigger opening in the bight of the hook it wouldn't be accessible through the panel in the bumper. What we've got is a result of compromise.
What I think would certainly be possible is to slit maybe 4 or 5mm out of the back turn in of the hook - this part only holds the strap eye from popping back off anyway.
My strap (a quality bit of gear from ARB many years back and well looked after) just fits if you hold your mouth right. I wouldn't want to do it submerged in mud tho.
I tested it a few times and took the decision to not modify the hook - might change my mind if the strap ever has to be used seriously. Of course it'll be too late....
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

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What I think would certainly be possible is to slit maybe 4 or 5mm out of the back turn in of the hook - this part only holds the strap eye from popping back off anyway.
Exactly what I'm thinking. I might have a look on the weekend if I get time.
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