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Old 02-28-2014, 09:31 PM
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I was under the impression that an equalizing strap should be used to distribute the snatching load between the two front rails?
That is most definitely best practice.

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I was under the impression that an equalizing strap should be used to distribute the snatching load between the two front rails?
Yep, if it is a major recovery I can see it may be worth spreading the load over 2 recovery points. For your average tug out of the sand or a muddy hole the one hook should be fine. I've never needed to use an equaliser. If I was towing a heavy trailer and all 8 wheels were majorly bogged I'd be worried the tug required to get me out might break something.

As far as bending rails, there is already bracing on the rail horns, if the tug is heavy enough to bend something it is going to do so whether there are 2 hooks on the rail or one. Might actually be better the hook mount breaks than bending the front end. Maybe not good for anyone infront of the vehicle?

Just thinking about the eyelets again, have shackles in a snatch doesn't sound good, maybe I'll go for hooks....
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:21 PM
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I'll be using an equalizing strap. Always have... no reason not to, and it's inarguable that the lines of force are always better.

For $300 less, it's kinda like only putting it half way in :sly:

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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

Just checking out the website, nice job.

Whats the go with the seat covers, as I am about to buy a pair and will hold off if your are not to far away.

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Placed my order for recovery hooks.

Nice job Bill.

A suggestion - maybe a few photos on your site of each piece actually fitted to a vehicle would be helpful.
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the positive feedback about the website. We've been working very hard on it and all of the products. It's great to finally have it open for everyone.

I'm also excited to see some photos of them installed, and of course out being used.

@GMWK2 - Great suggestion. We'll be shooting more product photos in 2 weeks, I'll see if we can get some good ones of the products installed.

@chocco - We're still a few months away on the seat covers.

@BobT - You were officially our first customer! I'll be putting a little something extra in your package when it ships out.

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Just thinking about the eyelets again, have shackles in a snatch doesn't sound good, maybe I'll go for hooks....
My thoughts exactly. The closed ring lugs are more for really heavy winching work. With a SWL of 4,500kg one could lift a fully laden Jeep vertically on just one lug. I wouldn't like to try that with the Mopar hooks.

Regarding having one or two hooks, it is always better, though usually not necessary, to use two with an equalisation strap.
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I'll be using an equalizing strap. Always have... no reason not to, and it's inarguable that the lines of force are always better.

For $300 less, it's kinda like only putting it half way in :sly:

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I've had the cruiser snatched out a few times, it only has the one recovery hook. There's been no problem. One of them involved being pulled at a 45 degree angle.

Unless it's really stuck in then I don't see the need, if the load is so great you are going to break the mounting, then I'd be thinking about a different way to recover.
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Drat you, BobT!!!!
The least I could do considering all my belly aching.
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Can someone provide the benefits of the recovery point vs tow hooks? Bash plate is a no brainier.
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A tow point is generally suitable for applying adequate force to move a freely mobile vehicle. Breakdown towing. Additional loads could be up a tilt tray, perhaps with a minor rolling issue or perhaps out of a mild ditch. Not belly down in sticky ooze or wet sand.

For the latter, recovery points are appropriate. They are coined due to their inherent strength which can tolerate winching loads and the force multiplication of "snatch" straps.

Using a tow point beyond its capacity is where things get untidy. If they are all that's available, usually digging and then a gentle tow is the way forward.

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