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Old 08-18-2015, 06:39 PM
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Re: Off Road 18"s

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Good to hear. They used be scary in wet. Worse after some wear. From reading through this thread it seems just sitting a rimless tyre in the spare wheel well to see if it will close won't work. Some are having trouble with the rim also. Is that correct?

I hate the scissor jacks so will probably ditch and fit a bottle jack wrapped in rags.

I think you said Benn0 that you didn't trust the bottle jack on the mopar rock rails. Maybe a piece of wood with hole cut in it part way the diameter of the jack head would work or cut some waffle pad or rubber to sandwich between the rail and jack head?
I can't fit my OEM 18" rim in the well, outside side down, hence removing the option of carrying stuff in the wheel. The spokes of the wheel hit a bulge at the rear of the wheel well.
I raised the issue in another thread, of using a bottle jack on the JGC jacking points. Suggestions included buying a hockey puck and cutting a slot in it, or a pice of the plastic stuff cutting boards are made of. I haven't done it yet, so can't comment on how it would work on the front points which are a welded seam. But it wouldn't solve the problem for the rear jacking points, as the head of the scissor jack not only has a slot for the seam, but a bulge to fit in a locating well. The "right" way, would be to cut the head off the scissor jack and somehow fit it to the top of the bottle jack. (This applies to using the original jacking points, not rock rails, so maybe it's not much help)
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Re: Off Road 18"s

I worked out there is a square hole cut in either end of the mopar rock rail, so the scissor jack slots into that. I would prefer a bottle jack, been meaning to pick one up, but yeah, a piece of wood, or rubber that cushioned the contact would be good, otherwise it may just slide off.

A chunk of PVC cut to shape might be the answer.....
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Re: Off Road 18"s

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I can't fit my OEM 18" rim in the well, outside side down, hence removing the option of carrying stuff in the wheel. The spokes of the wheel hit a bulge at the rear of the wheel well.
Can that bulge be removed or is it sheetmetal. Sorry just found out my GC has to be ordered so not due till end of November/early December so can't see what you guys have been talking about.

I'd be careful of cutting up teflon from a chopping board as it is slippery, so wouldn't be good for between the jack.
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Old 08-18-2015, 09:17 PM
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Re: Off Road 18"s

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Good to hear. They used be scary in wet. Worse after some wear. From reading through this thread it seems just sitting a rimless tyre in the spare wheel well to see if it will close won't work. Some are having trouble with the rim also. Is that correct?

I hate the scissor jacks so will probably ditch and fit a bottle jack wrapped in rags.

I think you said Benn0 that you didn't trust the bottle jack on the mopar rock rails. Maybe a piece of wood with hole cut in it part way the diameter of the jack head would work or cut some waffle pad or rubber to sandwich between the rail and jack head?
Tyre compounds change all the time to adjust for market forces so it's a bit of a lucky dip year to year. Anyway, one can't expect an AT tread to perform anything like a highway tread on a wet sealed road.

Regarding jacks, yes, I agree the scissors jack is not much. It's basically just a light weight emergency jack. Mine is just about stuffed now so I bought a bottle jack, two actually. The first was an el cheapo from Repo. It works fine but the travel is all wrong for the Jeep. It needs to be low enough to fit under the car and lift high enough to get the wheel a inch or so off the ground. This also goes for whatever you are towing. You might also want to allow for the addition of a larger base plate for when jacking on soft soil. I ended up with a squat telescopic jack I got online from Blackwood. They have a huge selection of shapes and sizes. Lifting capacity is not a big issue. The Jeep weighs about 3t but one lifts just one wheel at the time, two at the most.
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Re: Off Road 18"s

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Can that bulge be removed or is it sheetmetal. Sorry just found out my GC has to be ordered so not due till end of November/early December so can't see what you guys have been talking about.

I'd be careful of cutting up teflon from a chopping board as it is slippery, so wouldn't be good for between the jack.
It looks to me like the bulge could be cut out and a flat section welded in - there is nothing underneath it, so I have no idea why the bulge is there. Maybe a spare underneath in some markets.
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Re: Off Road 18"s

Yeah, there is so much space under there, it is annoying they haven't made it a bit deeper. Although if you want to fit a long range tank under there.....
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Off Road 18"s

Seems as if the MY14 mag 18" wheel design will not fit in the well but the MY11/12 design will?

I wonder if it is the wheel design or the "bulge" - I'll have a look at my MY12 wheel well and see if it has a "bulge".


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Re: Off Road 18"s

I have just done a bit over 45,000 on the factory 18" Michelins and reckon they'll need to replaced in the next few thousand kms.
I think I might try the Mickey Thompson STZ. They have recently come down in price to $380 and the dealer will include a free wheel alignment during August.
(My other choice was to be the Yokohama GO12, $335.)
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Re: Off Road 18"s

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It looks to me like the bulge could be cut out and a flat section welded in - there is nothing underneath it, so I have no idea why the bulge is there. Maybe a spare underneath in some markets.
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It looks to me like the bulge could be cut out and a flat section welded in - there is nothing underneath it, so I have no idea why the bulge is there. Maybe a spare underneath in some markets.
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The bulge is probably there to reduce flex and add strength.
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Re: Off Road 18"s

Picking up some General Grabber AT2's tomorrow for $295 a corner fitted, shop couldn't go any lower on price and all alternatives seemed $80+ a corner more expensive.
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