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Paint protection is it worth getting it..

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#1 ·
Hi Guys the jeep sales team tried their hearts out to sell me paint protection and leather protection. I politely refused. Do you guys think is it work 1200k or is it marketing gimmick. Can I get this done from outside for cheap. If so where in Sydney would they do this.
 
#2 ·
Hi There,
Do a search on the same subect. AllyPally wrote a superb method of protecting your paint work for less than $100. I followed his steps and mines still good after 6 months of washing only.
 
#4 ·
I am thinking you got the decimal point in the wrong place and meant to say $12.00. At that price, it is probably a little over the top, but acceptable. Anything greater than $12 is a ripoff, as it would cost you about another $150 to repair the damage they created while doing it.
 
#5 ·
Spot on allypally. It also isn't a marketing gimmick it is an outright ripoff.

Don't fill the greedy dealers pockets with your hard earned cash. I did it all myself for well under $100 and after the job was done the products I purchased remained all near full.

- Carnauba Wax (purchased in store here in haste) followed by Meguiars Ultimate Liquid Wax (due to shipping costs I purchased 2 online and yet all cost less than the price of 1 here)
- Scotchgard tins for carpets, mats and cargo area (purchased 4 in error at BigW)
- A small tin of a leather protector from Bunnings.
- Professional window tinting for $150 (all round) and not just the front like the dealers offer.

As the Meguiars came with a clay bar I then did our much older second vehicle.

I have since had the new car replaced and last weekend I performed the same thing on the new vehicle using the leftovers.

This weekend I plan to do 2 other family vehicles - again using the leftovers.

Apart from the scotchgard I will still have enough of the carnauba wax and ultimate Liquid Wax to last quite a number of years - applying it once or twice a year depending on weather and travels.
 
#6 ·
The Ming Mole is just there to remove any further unwanted cash you may have left.
I would never use the dealers "Protection Packs" as they are generally outsourced.
My mate does all the tinting for 3 different dealerships. He charges $90-$150 for a car and they charge $300-995 to the end user.
Same goes for the paint protection, usually done by a local detailer.
 
#7 ·
I did a fair bit of research on the subject a while back on the various detailing forums I am a member of. Professional detailers agree that nearly all of the paint protection products are rubbish, particularly the dealer applied stuff.

The one product that does have a good reputation is Opticoat, which takes a full day to apply and has to cure for 24 hours after application.

Distibutor site:
About Opti-Coat Ceramic Clear Coating

Torture test:
Review and Extreme Testing: Opti-Coat 2.0 and CQuartz - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum

2 year review:
2 Year Opti-Coat Test Thread

Durability test:
Optimum Opti-Coating - Durability Test Review!!! - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum

I have it on mine and I'm pretty happy with it. Lifetime warranty when applied on new vehicles up to 12 months after purchase. My neighbour was so impressed with it after seeing it on the Jeep, he's had it put on his Porsche Cayman and his wife's Audi.

Costs around $900 for the Jeep incl wheels.
 
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#10 ·
I had mine applied by Reflect Effect. Highly recommended. It is only a one person business, but Dan is a good guy and knows his stuff. There are a few other detainers around Sydney who are approved to apply Opticoat, but I can only speak to Dan's work.


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#11 · (Edited)
I had paint protection done on my last new car (Focus XR5) and it has been pretty ordinary. In fact the car previous to that which I did not even wax/polish looked as good at the same age as the one with protection.

So this time I went the Meguiars 3 step process. It took 5-6 hours but came up very nice. After washing I ran the Gold Class Trim Detailer over the black plastics before using the Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner then the Deep Crystal Wet Look Polish. Nice!
 
#12 ·
I had a paint protection on my last car, it was part of a whole package, including window tint. I was a very disappointing finish, lifetime warranty, but it looked like it might have lasted a year.

Now I use Mothers Carnauba Wax.

It's the first thing I did. The finish is unbelievably smooth. Do that a couple times a year, and maybe run a clay over every other year. I put a clay and Carnauba wax on my 21 year old Soarer and it really made the finish smooth.
 
#13 ·
I had paint protection on my car and it was shite doesn't tell us a lot. What was the product called? Most of the paint protection products on the market are rubbish I agree, particularly anything sold by the dealers.

I have to say though, that Opticoat is doing what it claims on my Jeep, in the 8 months I've had it on. The proof will be over several years, but so far, so good.


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#16 ·
Not sure if that was a question for me. I cannot remember the product name otherwise I would have said. Just goes to show, it made absolutely no lasting impression on me. Maybe I could have said I didn't remember. It seems the general consensus is most paint protection isn't worth the cost.
 
#14 ·
A car dealer I knew when I lived in NY told me 15% of the dealership's profit came from all the crap that was sold after the deal was made on the car.

The folks selling it didn't actually work for the dealership. It was a private company that had people in most of the dealerships and often were called the 'financial advisor'. They would handle the paperwork to process the loan while trying to sell some add ons.
 
#15 ·
"financial advisor" = "Ming Mole"
The word MING came from the crap product they tried to push. I understand the same product also covered as dishwashing soap, dog shampoo, waterproofer for plastic containers, whiteboard cleaner, as well as pimple and wart remover.
 
#19 ·
Went to a retired panel beater in our suburb. He quoted 550 to wax and polish the jeep. He said this should last about a year. I didn't accept because if I am paying that amount of money it should last a couple of years. Heck if it is going to last only a year I might as well wax the car myself every 6 months.

Do you know if Opti Coat 2+ lasts longer than couple of years?
 
#21 ·
I honestly don't see what the fuss is about, I have been in the automotive industry for over 30 years and a great deal of that time has been with paint and refinish. If you can spend about an hour every six months and apply a good coat of wax, thats all you need. I currently use Mothers Carnuba wax (about 30 - 40 bucks), took about 40 min to apply last weekend. You will find bugs, birdshit and fallout will wash off a lot easier.

Thats my 2 cents worth anyway.

Cheers
 
#25 · (Edited)
+1 with adamt

I try to wash every week (the car that is, I shower daily) and wax every 3 months. Meguairs NXT is what I'm currently using, but might try Mothers or Autoglym next.

A mate has applied nanolex to his and his wife's cars. Jury is still out as they were both new cars anyway and they are only 5 months old.

Bird strikes are what I've got a problem with at the moment as our area is full of lorikeets in the morning and mynahs all day. The GC has two small etch marks on the roof because I didnt spot and remove the bird poo nearly immediately. Its as though the birds wait for the GC to be brought out and then they unleash hell on it. I doubt any type of paint protection can stop them ... except maybe a big GC condom that can be peeled off and thrown away.
 
#26 ·
i'm thinking about getting the 3m Paint protector, it's like that protective skin that you put on your iphone or something ... it would cost me roughly 1100$ to have my bumper mirrors and hood ... I would think it's a good idea since that kind of material does a good job on the phone... and well as for my jeep it would be impact mostly right instead of scratches ... what do you guy's think?
 
#29 ·
To remove wax from plastic try windex and a toothbrush.
Another solution is to use peanutbutter and a toothbrush. And, NO, you do not brush your teeth with the peanut butter.

For other solutions type "Remove car wax from plastic" into a Google search.
Follow the recommended time on the Mother's bottle. Usually, it is wait until the wax hazes.
 
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