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Thanks MMM, that's great.
I'm sure you've got better things to do with your time, hence the requested brief response. Cheers

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Thanks MMM, that's great.
I'm sure you've got better things to do with your time, hence the requested brief response. Cheers
You're welcome. Care to share your US install instructions? I'd like to understand what pins they're suggesting. PM me if you'd rather not post.

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http://site.justforjeeps.com/guide/82213884.pdf

Hope that works.
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You're welcome. Care to share your US install instructions? I'd like to understand what pins they're suggesting. PM me if you'd rather not post.

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https://youtu.be/DhMyCWzUQ5s

https://youtu.be/-hQHy6HsDTw

https://youtu.be/OX8Ln_JPHTE

These from a helpful Jeep enthusiast. In the US the Laredo model doesn't come with a camera. (but it only costs $30K !)


I posted the links rather than embed because there's some info in his description / comments, and there was also a problem in the loom he had (which has now been fixed with a revision of the kit itself)

There must be a PDF of the instruction floating around somewhere on t'internet.
I found an older MY12 one but the camera and facia kit is different.
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Re: Rear safety camera

So you are saying the "replacement" I have that has no gridlines can be activated by these making these connections. I don't care if I don't have dynamic grid lines, straight would be just dandy.

Once you make the pin connections do you have the ability to turn them on/off via the setting option in UConnect?
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So you are saying the "replacement" I have that has no gridlines can be activated by these making these connections. I don't care if I don't have dynamic grid lines, straight would be just dandy.

Once you make the pin connections do you have the ability to turn them on/off via the setting option in UConnect?
There is NO option (on Laredo) to turn off the lines via any option in the UConnect settings.

EDIT: See my update below

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There is NO option (on Laredo) to turn off the lines via any option in the UConnect settings.

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I've got a "checkbox" in one of the setting screens on the UConnect for parking gridlines.
Can you not uncheck it? or missing from the list?

(it doesn't make any difference on mine - still have dodgy camera fitted.)
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There is NO option (on Laredo) to turn off the lines via any option in the UConnect settings.

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There is on mine, possibly the Australian ones have it,
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I've got a "checkbox" in one of the setting screens on the UConnect for parking gridlines.

Can you not uncheck it? or missing from the list?



(it doesn't make any difference on mine - still have dodgy camera fitted.)

I have a WK2 Laredo here in Oz with the new camera fitted. I also have the option to turn the gridlines on or off in Uconnect..makes no difference, I don't get the gridlines.


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I've got a "checkbox" in one of the setting screens on the UConnect for parking gridlines.
Can you not uncheck it? or missing from the list?

(it doesn't make any difference on mine - still have dodgy camera fitted.)
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There is on mine, possibly the Australian ones have it,
So, I learned something today: What I see isn't the same as what others have!

I have an Australian Laredo (in SA) and I certainly don't have a UConnect setting to turn on/off gridlines, see the attached pic...!

I have the latest firmware (14.25.5) and I've even spent an hour this afternoon rolling off all the Customtronix RAX mods so I'm back to stock!

The only explanation I can think of is that my dealer didn't put the Backup Camera sales code ("XAC") into the DealerCONNECT website and update my vehicle (via the wiTECH). This is highly likely since my newcam was installed quite a while ago - and well before the other Laredo owners got theirs upgraded by protesting to FCA.

I always had the crapcam (like @Steve1307), but when they changed this for the newcam, I guess that they saw it worked and (I'll be generous) didn't know that they needed to do more.

I'm going in for a service this week, so I'll check that the correct sales code has been uploaded, and see if that adds the gridlines option.

@Steve1307 - Did you said you were getting a service Monday? Could you let us know if your Laredo has the correct sales code added (if your dealer knows what that means)? This is probably why you and @67HR (and others) have the UConnect gridline setting, but ironically, can't use it...

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Thanks for that - and thank goodness for fast forward. Essentially, lots of pictures of someone following the same instructions posted by @Bigskiddy.

My extra wire install wasn't nearly as involved as that!

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Thanks! So, reading through this, the essential parts are buried in a whole load of loom threading and messing around that we Aussies don't need to do! The instructions assume that we need to take the video signal from the camera to the UConnect, but our (Aussie) Laredo dealers have already done all that messy work for us. However, the loom that Aussie GC Laredo users get misses the essential wire that transmits the trigger signal to tell the UConnect to provide the moving gridlines!

Jeep, that's cheap! (And unsurprising).

So, 'all' we need to do is provide that signal. The trigger gets raised on pin 4 of connector D6685A (inside the tailgate on the newcam plug), and that needs to be sent to somewhere that LIN BUS CBC 3 is expecting it - this is circuit D403. (Note that I don't know if that signal gets raised on the crapcam - I never tested it, so YMMV with the following).

In the PDF instructions, connecting into the LIN BUS is achieved at Step 46 - where the BL (blue) wire is connected into pin 45 on connector D3806E in the engine bay.

But there's a quicker way.

@VANT4GE identified that the D403 circuit is also available at connector I5010 which is far more conveniently located next to the passenger's foot inside the cab (this is on the LHS in Australian GC's) - so no need to do all that messy tunneling into the engine bay through the firewall!

If you look up D403 on TechConnect (use Chrome!) you can see all the locations where that circuit goes meaning that you can tap into it anywhere it's available - the best place being at InlineBody/IP 2 Connector Pin 27. So, that's what I've done...

Proof is the picture I've attached.

FWIW, the following are red herrings as far as Aussie Laredo users are concerned:
  • Step 27 says to plug the 2 wires into pins 8 & 9 - this has essentially nothing to do with the camera since these wires provide power to the license plate lights.
  • Step 60 is all about providing the composite video signal (and shield) to the back of the UConnect: Pin 31 is Camera Signal, Pin 32 Camera Return & Pin 33 is Shield. Again, we (Aussie) Laredo owners don't need to do this, because the loom carrying the composite video signal from the camera to the UConnect input has already been fitted by the dealer at delivery - along with the crapcam.
Oh, and a tip for connecting the wires: Don't use those scotchlok or blade connectors - they work themselves loose or don't make a connection properly in the first place which is a PITA for diagnosing possible problems. Either solder the wires properly (irreversible) or do what I did and (this sounds stupid but is very effective) solder a paperclip arm onto the end of your connecting wire and put heat-shrink over it, then gently push this into the relevant connectors with the original pin. Once it's snug and firm, you can cable-tie the line to another part of the loom. This way, whatever you've done is reversible.

OK, that's about as much 'electrical engineering' I want to do for now...

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