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Re: Reversing camera on whilst driving

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I've always wanted to have the ability to be able to switch on the reversing camera whilst towing so I can keep an eye on whatever I'm towing
Just reigniting this thread...

Does anyone know if I can enable my factory reverse cam without the addition of a NavTV/Lockpick unit?

I've not found any info anywhere, other than from people who've installed one of these units.

I'd like to choose when I switch the factory camera (or a second camera from my caravan) onto the 8.4" UConnect in my MY14 Grand Cherokee - and I don't want a second monitor cluttering up the place.

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Re: Reversing camera on whilst driving

Activation of the reverse camera on demand is not possible by the usual pull up / pull down of a discrete reverse signal wire at the head unit. In the JGC it's all done on the bus...

I was happy to simply have a trailer camera show when reversing, and have done a write-up on how I did it. If you want more, it's time to spend some money with Coastal Lockpick, NavTV or Customtronix.

I'd be looking at Customtronix for your solution. I got a world of no interest from Coastal and a bunch of vapourware delays from NavTV. Customtronix have been very responsive regarding other semi-related modifications they offer.

Of course other's experiences may vary...

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Activation of the reverse camera on demand is not possible by the usual pull up / pull down of a discrete reverse signal wire at the head unit. In the JGC it's all done on the bus...
I was beginning to think as much! Thanks for saving me more searching...

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I was happy to simply have a trailer camera show when reversing, and have done a write-up on how I did it. If you want more, it's time to spend some money with Coastal Lockpick, NavTV or Customtronix.

I'd be looking at Customtronix for your solution. I got a world of no interest from Coastal and a bunch of vapourware delays from NavTV. Customtronix have been very responsive regarding other semi-related modifications they offer.

Of course other's experiences may vary...

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Always good to get a recommendation based on experience. But I skipped Customtronix earlier because I didn't see any products on their site that interfaced with the UConnect 8.4 - just retrofit gear for MyGIG and pre-2010 JGC's. Do you know different?

Meanwhile, I want to have a dig into the CAN BUS option - plenty of info on this because it's a mandated protocol for US vehicles. So, it's probably time to dust off the old Hex calculator and recall how serial ATA modem commands work.

If I recall correctly, a bottle of aspirin is required with those two...

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Re: Reversing camera on whilst driving

I think the Customtronix "Silver" package is spot on for you. It does what you want... 100%. As a bonus you can enter destinations on the move. That said, I'm sure I've invested time reinventing the wheel before... sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do!

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I think the Customtronix "Silver" package is spot on for you. It does what you want... 100%. As a bonus you can enter destinations on the move.
Thanks - agreed. Using the external CAN BUS just sends messages to the UConnect to tell it to do things that can "kind of" already do - like switch on Camera A. I'd probably use more than 1 bottle of aspirin making a CAN BUS adaptor work, although it'd be a good 'challenge' project!

Looks like I'm going to be reading through the Customtronix thread in the hope of answering the raft of questions I have... Please let me know if you have more Customtronix experiences. (Please PM me if you don't wish to share here).


Separately, but kind of in this general area, I just enabled dynamic lines on my MY14 Laredo reversing camera after I got the dealer to replace the crap-cam that Jeep Australia originally supplied. The dealer said it couldn't be done, but the instructions are on these forums, and it's now happening on my RJ3. Is anyone interested in a write up for the Aussie JGC's?

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Re: Reversing camera on whilst driving

Definitely do a write-up of your dynamic line enabling method... I'm sure there are others who would like Aussie-fied blow by blow instructions.

Regarding the Customtronix Silver... enjoy your reading. The Customtronix website also has quite a few videos worth watching, and a bunch of documentation in the FAQ section from memory.

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Re: Reversing camera on whilst driving

For what it's worth, a trailer camera can be tricky to set up as both a reverse camera and a useful rear view device. It's not impossible by any stretch, but it's not always easy to set up a camera with an undistorted field of view to see both the back bumper and "down the road" a bit.

My camera is very high and gives a good perspective for backing up to things unassisted, but as far as a rearview mirror would only pick up a car if it were tailgating me beyond the ability of anyone not born in Perth.

Perhaps investigate your camera view and objectives prior to proceeding with the car mods? Just a thought...

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Definitely do a write-up of your dynamic line enabling method... I'm sure there are others who would like Aussie-fied blow by blow instructions.
I'll do that when I finish/get time. The main thing to report is that I've been successful in making it work

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Regarding the Customtronix Silver... enjoy your reading. The Customtronix website also has quite a few videos worth watching, and a bunch of documentation in the FAQ section from memory.
While the CTX (Customtronix) website/YouTube has a heap of videos, they are mostly PR posts by "Magnus" saying "this is what it does" and "you install it like this". The FAQ has documentation, but lots of it refers to non-UConnect products and there's scant technical detail on the actual JB software itself. (Mind you, I couldn't write something in Swedish and have it understood, so no criticism - just some more content would be good).

I'm still trawling through the 70+ (yikes!) pages in this thread, but there is no 'official' info that I've found that addresses things like:
  • Does this enable Nav on an AUS/ROW RJ3? I have a Laredo with the RJ3, so no nav on my unit unless I pay (another story). There's a Customtronix YouTube video showing Nav being activated on an RJ3, while at the same time their FAQ says no, can't be done. (Perhaps my JGC doesn't have all the hardware required)
  • What's their software update/support/renewal policy? For example, if the dealer does an update (likely at a service) 14 months after I buy the CTX ROM, I'll need the latest working Customtronix ROM for my Uconnect otherwise I only have an enhancement for an out-of-date version of the UConnect firmware
  • What if installing their ROM bricks my unit? I can't just drive round the corner and have them fix it!
  • How open are they to implementing new ideas? I have some suggestions
  • ...plus a load of questions I didn't think of yet
I know that I should post all of these in the right thread, but sometimes "Aussie" questions get swamped with US Specific answers! I'll get round to e-mailing CTX when I'm ready...

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For what it's worth, a trailer camera can be tricky to set up as both a reverse camera and a useful rear view device. It's not impossible by any stretch, but it's not always easy to set up a camera with an undistorted field of view to see both the back bumper and "down the road" a bit.

My camera is very high and gives a good perspective for backing up to things unassisted, but as far as a rearview mirror would only pick up a car if it were tailgating me beyond the ability of anyone not born in Perth.

Perhaps investigate your camera view and objectives prior to proceeding with the car mods? Just a thought...
Thanks - already investigated! The majority opinion is that a 92-degree camera mounted 8-10 ft off the ground is the best option for a rear-view mirror substitute - and of course a flipped image is required. This one or this one seem would seem to be the suitable - both come with audio, so I should be able to hear stuff as well as see stuff!

I could do a wide angle reversing cam on the caravan (mounted lower and with audio to hear the wife yelling "stop!"), but one thing at a time. It'd be interesting to get the dynamic lines on that as well... (Just thinking ).

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Re: Reversing camera on whilst driving

Hi MadMapMan,

You may be interested in this camera:

Dual CCD Camera White with Hood CH-DWCCD

We have installed a couple of these and they do both jobs, 65 degree and 120 degree views but you would need to manually switch the feed to your monitor from one output to the other.

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  • Does this enable Nav on an AUS/ROW RJ3? I have a Laredo with the RJ3, so no nav on my unit unless I pay (another story). There's a Customtronix YouTube video showing Nav being activated on an RJ3, while at the same time their FAQ says no, can't be done. (Perhaps my JGC doesn't have all the hardware required)
  • What's their software update/support/renewal policy? For example, if the dealer does an update (likely at a service) 14 months after I buy the CTX ROM, I'll need the latest working Customtronix ROM for my Uconnect otherwise I only have an enhancement for an out-of-date version of the UConnect firmware
  • What if installing their ROM bricks my unit? I can't just drive round the corner and have them fix it!
  • How open are they to implementing new ideas? I have some suggestions
  • ...plus a load of questions I didn't think of yet
I know that I should post all of these in the right thread, but sometimes "Aussie" questions get swamped with US Specific answers! I'll get round to e-mailing CTX when I'm ready...
MMM

MMM, I purchased the Gold package from Magnus and have found their customer support to be pretty darn good, although not an expert on the subject I will try to answer some of you questions

I do not believe it will give you SAT NAV on a unit that doesnt have it already, it will just remove the speed locks and enable you to do things like manually input addresses while the car is in motion.
It does however give you the SRT apps that allows you to monitor a few extra bits on the car like G-Forces, pressures and Temps.

I asked for the rollback software and if I have needed to take the car back to a Jeep dealer then, I have removed all the RAX software and then re-installed after picking the car up. I believe that if you attempt to update the Uconnect with something other than what Customtronix issue it will just fail. So given the intelligence of our dealers I didnt really want them trying to work out why the updates were not working, pulling my dash apart and finding the RAX harness.

I hear Magnus has been flat out trying to sort out the issues and changes to get the new MY15 models working so I believe there is an update coming out soon for the others models including some extra changes that have been requested by customers

Magnus seems to be very open to suggestions/new ideas and I recall reading a post in the other thread actually asking whether there was anything we actually wanted

At the moment I have mine wired up with front and rear camera's (havent got around to actually connecting the rear as yet, but it is wired up ready to go) So front cam automatically come on when below a set speed. found this great when off road.
Rear cam can be activated any time by pressing the Cargo Cam button on the screen just like in the video's.
I extended the Cargo Cam input down to the little cuddy hole where the USB sockets are and also wired in a media player. At the moment I can just swap between having the rear cam or media player by changing over the video cable. ultimately a little switch would be nice to finnish the job.

Very happy with it so far and looking forward to the update and seeing what else the Customtronix team have for us
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Hi MadMapMan,

You may be interested in this camera:

Dual CCD Camera White with Hood CH-DWCCD

We have installed a couple of these and they do both jobs, 65 degree and 120 degree views but you would need to manually switch the feed to your monitor from one output to the other.

Pete
Thanks Pete - this is a possible option, I like the idea. Is the angle from high (where you'd need the rearview lens) good for reversing? I imagine that the people you've fitted these for have an opinion on whether its good or bad in practice? Does one/both have an audio feed/mic?

FWIW, I think Brash have the same cam for $135 (I'm not affiliated). I've not looked at fleabay yet, still planning and need more Customtronix info...

Thought: With the various video inputs the CTX ROM provides, I guess you could allocate 2 inputs to this if you didn't want a forward cam.

Oh the decisions, the choices, the dilemmas. Another first world problem to cope with

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Higher the better for reverse camera positioning.
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