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Since normal air is about 78% nitrogen! it is likely that the idea of nitrogen filled tyres is a marketing ploy! no real advantage.
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Thanks for all the pics and info from folks using theJGCs to the max off road. Am interested in the comments...only 1 GC stopped due to not having the 'sand fix'?.

The circumstances causing the 'sand' issues seem unclear to me, from the text. Is it as a simple as error messages flick on when driving on sand? Or is it when really loading up the drive train?

Were all the vehicles bar 1 updated?

Should I get my Crd MY14 July build updated, though no obvious issues?

As a keen Australian offroad13, am keen to learn even more from the great input from Oz Keepers.

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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

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What is the process if you have nitrogen in your tyres instead of air, letting out nitrogen to say 20psi then after a play on the sand and needing to air up to normal pressures, irrelevent if it's 18 or 20 inch tyres?

I'm sure there is no nitrogen in the tanks at the servos and my small air compressor compresses air. Will it be ok to pump it with air for the long term or does it need to be all expelled at some time and filled with only nitrogen asap?
As Fatboy says, there is certainly no problem mixing air and nitrogen. The only real benefit of using nitrogen in a passenger car is that it is seep through the rubber slower so that tyre pressures are maintained longer. I guess the hope is that for those that go from service to service without checking tyre pressures, the pressures will not be too far off safe levels. For off-roading, nitrogen is a waste of money. Marketers of nitrogen can claim that it must be good otherwise why would they use it in motor racing. In motor racing tyres are expected to work to extremes of heat where dry nitrogen becomes a real advantage. Passenger tyres cannot be driven legally anywhere near these extremes.
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As Fatboy says, there is certainly no problem mixing air and nitrogen. The only real benefit of using nitrogen in a passenger car is that it is seep through the rubber slower so that tyre pressures are maintained longer. I guess the hope is that for those that go from service to service without checking tyre pressures, the pressures will not be too far off safe levels. For off-roading, nitrogen is a waste of money. Marketers of nitrogen can claim that it must be good otherwise why would they use it in motor racing. In motor racing tyres are expected to work to extremes of heat where dry nitrogen becomes a real advantage. Passenger tyres cannot be driven legally anywhere near these extremes.
Haha, legaly, doesn't stop some now does it....
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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

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Haha, legaly, doesn't stop some now does it....
I should have been clearer. I meant driving beyond the speed rating of the tyre. Most cars are unlikely to be able to achieve this if they have legal speed rated tyres.
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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

They are putting together a new Stockton Beach management plan, see Stockton Beach (Worimi Conservation Lands) - new plan @ ExplorOz Forum . OK, it may kill some of the fun but let's face it, it gets a bit crowded on weekends.
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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

G'day all
Well looks like a great time was had on the Stockton beach in 2013.
The new Jeep GC Limited is on its way and living in Newcastle, a trip on the beach for the family and dog is a must when she arrives.
Any pointers for driving on Stockton? Just looking to start at Birubi and drive down the beach a few Km's to give the dog a swim and the little one time to build sand castle or two. No dune driving at this point, just a little adventure to start the ball rolling.
Any pointers for driving between the waterline and the base of the dunes appreciated..

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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

G'day MMAG4X4. Stockton is quite an easy beach to drive. If you go in via Lavis Lane the beach down to the wreck is wide and pretty easy driving. Lower your tire pressures, a bit of momentum and away you go. Permits are available at the servo. Best to go with someone if you are inexperienced and get yourself a front recovery hook from Chief Products and a snatch strap.


I have not been up there since last October but the Anna Bay end was fairly limited for driving due to beach erosion.

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Worimi Conservation Lands - Stockton Bight, Stockton Beach, Stockton Sand Dunes, 4WD on Stockton Beach

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Make 18PSI your target for tyre pressure.
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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

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G'day all
Well looks like a great time was had on the Stockton beach in 2013.
The new Jeep GC Limited is on its way and living in Newcastle, a trip on the beach for the family and dog is a must when she arrives.
Any pointers for driving on Stockton? Just looking to start at Birubi and drive down the beach a few Km's to give the dog a swim and the little one time to build sand castle or two. No dune driving at this point, just a little adventure to start the ball rolling.
Any pointers for driving between the waterline and the base of the dunes appreciated..

Cheers
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I agree with Allypally but I would say go down to at least 18psi. I've done it at 16psi and it's even better. Just don't do any radical manoeuvres at that pressure.

Also, while driving on the hard wet sand might seems safer, it's not. Firstly, if it's low tide and the car has a problem, youíre in deep s***, not to mention you will get salt sprayed up everywhere. Secondly, the area between the hard wet sand and the dry sand is often very soft and the area you are most likely to get bogged. Stick to the dry sand and don't be afraid of dunes but only ever go straight up and straight down them. If the Jeep stalls going up a dune, just roll straight back down and try again, DONíT TURN! The other thing about driving on the dry sand area is that it is just so much more fun as I'm sure others will attest.
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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

A bogged GC on fraser, running 20s at full pressure (one of them mentioned pressure at 35)

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Re: Sand Driving Training - Stockton

They look like low profile 20s at that.

Edit: No they don't, it was the sand making them look that way.
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