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Old 07-21-2013, 05:58 PM
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Not sure if anyone carries these down there http://www.sherline.com/lm.htm . Small enough to fit in the storage bins in the back.

I check mine every once in a while. Always good to know!
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:08 PM
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Yeah, Aus site
http://www.sherline.com.au/SHERLINE%...ht%20Scale.htm

$198.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:53 PM
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Bugger me! I didn't know this towing thread existed so I've putting towing stuff on another site. I know John and Allypally post there also. So I guess I'll put my latest offerings here as well.

A while back I took the Jeep over a weighbridge. With two on board, Offroad Adventure Pack, rock rails, tow bar, tool box, recovery gear and a full tank, it weighed 1,420kg front and 1,300kg rear. The manual stipulates Gross Axle Weight Ratings of 1,452kg front and 1,687kg rear so no problem. I'm getting close in the front so a future bull bar might be an issue. Anyway, on a recent trip with our Kimberley Camper I noticed the rear car tyres were a little warmer than the rest so when I got back I put the car with trailer attached over the weighbridge. With full everything and gear, it came in at 1,280kg front, 1,720kg rear and 1,180kg trailer. The front was lighter but the rear axle was actually overloaded by 33kg. OK it's not a lot but I was shocked that the axle was overloaded at all. The ball weight of my trailer I measured at 216kg. The tow bar is rated for a ball weight of 350kg which gives the impression that I was miles safe but it wasn't so. The take-away here for me is that back of a bus ticket calcs are fine for a starting point but ultimately one needs to take the rig over a weigh bridge to really know what's going on. In future I'll try to move as much heavy gear from the back of the Jeep to the back of the trailer.
Do you have level riders to reduce the ball weight?
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:59 PM
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Re: The Towing thread

Here is another little tool that may be of use to people. Thankfully we have never had to use it.
Traileraid - Trailer-Aid Store



I purchased it 3 years ago from Bindoon Tractors - Index in WA for $100 delivered.
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Re: The Towing thread

Gday Stuch, a bit earlier on in this thread there was a link to the Hayman Reese Weight Distributing Hitch setup instructions.......commonly called "level riders" in Australia.
This type of hitch does move vehicle loading away from the ball area - but doesn't work to reduce the trailer nose weight.

You're right though - if one was used it would reduce the load on the rear.

Extract from ETrailer.com "The physics of a weight distribution system can be a little confusing. But, basically the spring bars in the system push weight forward and backward so that the weight is more evenly pushed to the front and rear axles of the tow vehicle and the trailer axles. The actual tongue weight on the ball may not change significantly."

it has been mentioned before here but Jeep Australia recommend using a weight distributing hitch with all available suspension systems when towing above 2268kg. Van designs by local manufacturers here generally finish up 10 to 15% on the ball, and using 15% of 2268 = 340kg - close to the specified towbar max, and definitely warranting using a WDH. Just a bit more for the mix - my HR WDH weighs in at 32kg for the head and bars!!!
Bob's experience shows how easily the rear axle can be overloaded - and there'e plenty around that are doing it, but I've seen no complaints of rear axle issues so far.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:49 AM
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Do you have level riders to reduce the ball weight?
No I haven't. The trailer's registered GVM is 1,600kg. With the relatively low weight, Quadra-lift and the trailer sway damping that comes with the tow group, I figured I didn't need it. What I didn't say in my earlier post is that I deliberately loaded the trailer and car for functionality only with no consideration for weight distribution. There is a lot I can do to improve the weight distribution now that I know it is an issue with my rig. Mind you, it towed beautifully. Once the gearbox adjusted to the added load, I never felt the trailer again.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:30 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

If any of you "towing" guys want a Hayman Reece WDH I have one for sale at $300, located in the Hills District in Sydney.

I only tow a relatively light boat so will never need it.
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I might take that. Did you say you lived in the Hills District?
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Re: The Towing thread

That is too far for you Alan, it will cost you at least $2 in fuel.
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Fuel?
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Yes I live in the Hills District (although Blacktown Council!).

It will cost you less than a dollar in fuel, but delivery can be arranged if beer is present at point of delivery!
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Yes I live in the Hills District (although Blacktown Council!).

It will cost you less than a dollar in fuel, but delivery can be arranged if beer is present at point of delivery!
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