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Post Re: The Towing thread

Thought it might be a good time to post pics of my Tow-Pro install. The location of the unit just clears the cup holders. Brake input is pulled from the brake light at the trailer plug (replaced with a 12 pin).

The original factory tow harness install was a hack job, even if not installing a brake controller unit, its worth checking the grommet where the loom exits to ensure it is sealed properly. Screws and clips were also missing.





Also ran a 6mm hotwire to the back connected to a VSR next to the battery.

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Re: The Towing thread

I'm having a Tow-Pro fitted next week - thanks for the picture Daniel, of where you put the remote control. I'll go with that.
I have a question though, about towing offroad. I know the recommendation is to use the manual setting on the tow-pro, but even so, what happens when using hill-descent control? As I understand it, HDC will brake wheels individually. I presume this turns on the brake lights, and hence the trailer brakes. I'm not sure what effect this would have, other than it may be unpredictable! Has anyone tried this (not necessarily with the Tow-pro), and have any observations?
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I'm having a Tow-Pro fitted next week - thanks for the picture Daniel, of where you put the remote control. I'll go with that.
I have a question though, about towing offroad. I know the recommendation is to use the manual setting on the tow-pro, but even so, what happens when using hill-descent control? As I understand it, HDC will brake wheels individually. I presume this turns on the brake lights, and hence the trailer brakes. I'm not sure what effect this would have, other than it may be unpredictable! Has anyone tried this (not necessarily with the Tow-pro), and have any observations?
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If your going to use HDC whilst towing I hope your caravan is a Kedron or similar.

Although if your using HDC you need to have a caravan, cause it takes so long to get down a hill you need to stop halfway for lunch.
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Re: The Towing thread

I'm picking up a Tvan camper trailer next month. HDC is relevant because, as I've discussed elsewhere, my Jeep won't how low gears in manual mode.
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Re: The Towing thread

HDC for off road towing is great, it does brake our Aussieswag, P3 controller
Stops the trailer pushing you down the hill when the trailer brakes with jeep because of HDC


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I'm picking up a Tvan camper trailer next month. HDC is relevant because, as I've discussed elsewhere, my Jeep won't how low gears in manual mode.
I think you have a typo. Not sure what it is your Jeep won't do.

After you previous post, the missus and I checked out the HDC and the brake lights do indeed come on. This lines up with yoda42's experience that the P3 trailer brakes work fine with HDC so the Tow-pro should be OK too. I would think the manual override would be needed only in the most extreme situations. However, there is a catch with the HDC. We noticed that as the car came to a gentler slope, the HDC cut out without warning and thereafter relied on engine braking alone. The brake lights also went off at this point so trailer braking would also have ceased. I recall once when negotiating a very steep rocky slope with HDC on and for whatever reason, the HDC cut out and the car took off. Perhaps I touched one of the pedals with my foot, I don't know. Just be aware that like with so many things on these modern cars, the HDC can have a mind of its own.
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Re: The Towing thread

"How" should have been "hold": here's what I posted originally in the suspension/driveline thread:
Gears not holding on steep hill
I had a similar problem with HDC - with large water diversion humps across the road, I needed a touch of throttle to climb over them. This disengaged HDC which reactivated violently as I tipped over the top, causing the rear of the car to slide out. Wife yelled at me
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"How" should have been "hold": here's what I posted originally in the suspension/driveline thread:
Gears not holding on steep hill
I had a similar problem with HDC - with large water diversion humps across the road, I needed a touch of throttle to climb over them. This disengaged HDC which reactivated violently as I tipped over the top, causing the rear of the car to slide out. Wife yelled at me
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Now that you mention it, I think this is exactly what happened to me.
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Re: The Towing thread

I had a Tow-Pro installed last November. I got my local mobile auto elec to do it. I asked to have the control next to the headlight switch but he suggested a better spot was next to the cupholders in the centre console. When you think about it, you can have your front seat passenger adjust the braking level if you need both hands on the wheel.
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Re: The Towing thread

Also getting to the headlight switch is more difficult. It seems to be a decent tow system too, just remember its not set to automatic mode by default.
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Re: The Towing thread

Different & a lot easier to access, but personally I would have preferred it where one of the blank buttons are in the centre area. Say next to the Park Sense button. That way it is another control item, in a control button area, so keeps in more in line with aesthetics.
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