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However, regarding passenger vs LT tyres, passenger tyres have a distinct advantage on sand. The softer sidewalls handle lower pressures better and the finer tread will float more. When on sand, one wants to float over it. The AT treads on LT tyres need to be handled gently or they will dig a hole and bog the car.
My view has been that you can safely run LT tyres at lower pressures than P construction, because the sidewall is less prone to damage of hitting a hard object or popping a bead in direction changes.

The challenges at fraser aren't on the beach, its the access tracks and bypasses that have very soft, churned up (tour buses) sand, followed by tracks with tree roots and/or coffee rock.

You can buy the same tread tyre in either P or LT construction, so there is no difference in the tread pattern in that scenario. I would still go for an LT construction AT over a P construction HT for really soft sand and access tracks. I've offroaded on bribie in really soft stuff with a mate in a prado and HTs. I don't think they performed all that well, then again he didn't get stuck. But he was hesitant to drop pressure.

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Old 08-16-2015, 08:33 PM
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My view has been that you can safely run LT tyres at lower pressures than P construction, because the sidewall is less prone to damage of hitting a hard object or popping a bead in direction changes.

The challenges at fraser aren't on the beach, its the access tracks and bypasses that have very soft, churned up (tour buses) sand, followed by tracks with tree roots and/or coffee rock.

You can buy the same tread tyre in either P or LT construction, so there is no difference in the tread pattern in that scenario. I would still go for an LT construction AT over a P construction HT for really soft sand and access tracks. I've offroaded on bribie in really soft stuff with a mate in a prado and HTs. I don't think they performed all that well, then again he didn't get stuck. But he was hesitant to drop pressure.
I agree that if there is any chance of encountering roots or rocks then LT's are the way to go. However I recall the day some of us had at Stockton Beach with our WK2's and that those with the stock highway tread Kumhos both 18's and 20's surprisingly handled that giant dune marginally better than the instructor and I that ran LT's with an AT tread. We were all running at 18psi as I recall.
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Ahhhh, but the instructor was not in a Jeep.
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However I recall the day some of us had at Stockton Beach with our WK2's and that those with the stock highway tread Kumhos both 18's and 20's surprisingly handled that giant dune marginally better than the instructor and I that ran LT's with an AT tread. We were all running at 18psi as I recall.
Yep, but the advantage the LTs will have is they can run lower pressure than the others, without damage. 18psi isn't low enough when its dry and churned up. I've run 10psi when its been tough going, good LTs can handle it.
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Re: The Towing thread

LT tyres usually need to run lower pressures to bag out the same amount as the P rated tyre. I believe the target is to drop pressure until rim to ground distance is 75% of road pressure. I didnt have any tyre issues on Fraser running 15psi, including loaded and towing at 80kmh (LT MT tyres)
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From my research the best option for brake controller is TowPro from Redarc. It has a really neat through dash fitting ( just left and below fuel release) so it doesn't interfere with knee airbags, control unit mounts under dash and the unit can operate in manual or auto for load sensing plush the usual push to apply if you get some sway underway. They are usually under $300 on line plus fitting. Used Tekonshas before and they were great, but nowhere to fit them except on dash (yuk!) or in centre in front of gear stick - but that cuts down already limited storage spots.
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Re: The Towing thread

Hi All,

My question is simple, but I bet the answer isn't!

I have read this thread, and Barboots 'MY14 DIY Trailer Socket Wiring' thread, but I cannot determine if anyone has managed to wire their trailer brake controller such that all Jeep brake lights activate on use of the controller override function?

Whether it be a Tekonsha, HR, or now very popular Redarc TowPro like the one I have, does anyone have a solution to the only the Jeeps left brake light activating in override?

More importantly, has this solution been 'endorsed' by Jeep, in that it has not caused faults in the vehicle.

As I see it, the law states that all brake lights on the towing vehicle as well as the trailer/caravan being towed, must activate in both normal (foot brake) and controller manual override modes. If there is not a trailer brake controller wiring solution that satisfies this requirement, then the Jeep can only legally tow 750Kg's (i.e., the max towing weight for a non-braked trailer) and therefore the Jeep GC cannot be rated to tow 3500Kg's. The very reason/attribute a good number of us bought the vehicle for.

If this question has been answered elsewhere, can I please be pointed in the right direction. All constructive help appreciated and thanks in advance.

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Re: The Towing thread

Gr8Ness: I don't know if latest wiring harnesses solve this problem as it did occurred on earlier wiring harness kits and splicing. Jeep dealership wired mine initially and I had same problem. The fix they did was run an extra wire from the R/H brake light back to the trailer plug brake wire. The trailer loom had been spliced into the L/H side only (vehicle must have a split brake circuit I guess). Mine has been working fine with this set-up with brake lights working when emergency button pressed.
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Gr8Ness: I don't know if latest wiring harnesses solve this problem as it did occurred on earlier wiring harness kits and splicing. Jeep dealership wired mine initially and I had same problem. The fix they did was run an extra wire from the R/H brake light back to the trailer plug brake wire. The trailer loom had been spliced into the L/H side only (vehicle must have a split brake circuit I guess). Mine has been working fine with this set-up with brake lights working when emergency button pressed.
Thanks for the prompt response Gustlock.

So both side brake lights now work on your vehicle but centre highstop brakelight still nogo?

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Thanks for the prompt response Gustlock.

So both side brake lights now work on your vehicle but centre highstop brakelight still nogo?

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I have a Red-Arc controller and pushing emergency All 3 brake lights come ON.
Unsure if the centre light comes of the L/H or R/H circuit but the R/H was the only extra wire that was installed as I had to reposition the wiring because of the shoddy instillation. From memory the centre light comes of the L/H circuit so you will have to check which side they have spliced into if you have no centre light with the present configuration.
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Re: The Towing thread

Hi Guys,
New to this forum so apologies if it's been answered before. I'm looking at having a towbar fitted to my 2015 Limited. I'm not skilled enough to do it myself but have been quoted $880 (supplied and fitted) from a Brisbane dealer. Just wondering how this stacks up in your experiences. TIA.
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