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Storm, maybe do a bit of checking.....as far as I know the CRD's with steel suspension we get in Australia are fitted with self levelling shock absorbers in the rear. Well, that used to be the case before the 2014....
Correct MY14 has it too.

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Old 07-29-2013, 12:02 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

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The centre line of the receiver is 385mm above ground
Thanks Stuch. I wasn't sure if that was what you meant but you have clarified it now.

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I've noticed they've reversed the badge locations for the MY14 too.
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I've noticed they've reversed the badge locations for the MY14 too.
I wonder what mental gymnastics their designers went through to come up with that piece of stylistic inspiration.
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Storm, maybe do a bit of checking.....as far as I know the CRD's with steel suspension we get in Australia are fitted with self levelling shock absorbers in the rear. Well, that used to be the case before the 2014....
I did see one post (i think it was over on the Australian caravaners forum), where an owner had imported air bags from the US and fitted them to his WK2 quite happily.
Thanks John. I was wondering if that was the case. I know that Firestone Coil Rite do a kit for the 2011-2013 WK2 (see http://www.airbagman.com.au/AirbagApps.pdf). It does mention the need for spring compressors and multiple drilling during installation though! I guess I'll see how the factory suspension setup goes when I hook up our van. If needs be I'll then chase up more on air bags or maybe even just a WDH?
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Thanks John. I was wondering if that was the case. I know that Firestone Coil Rite do a kit for the 2011-2013 WK2 (see http://www.airbagman.com.au/AirbagApps.pdf). It does mention the need for spring compressors and multiple drilling during installation though! I guess I'll see how the factory suspension setup goes when I hook up our van. If needs be I'll then chase up more on air bags or maybe even just a WDH?
I have seen a couple of comments by owners on another forum where their WK2 has sagged with a reasonable load in the back and then another few hundred kg on the ball....no wonder. But it seems the shockers will pump it up level.
Interesting proposition though - I'm not savvy enough to know why air bags and the self levelling together would be an issue. As I understand the self levelling, the shock absorbers pump themselves up hydraulically to a preset height, using vehicle movement. Possibly if the air bags lifted the spring to compensate for the load the shock absorber will simply follow up - with less than normal internal pressure - may affect dampening. Maybe ask the airbag supplier??
You could also ask this bloke for his thoughts Murchison Products - Jeep Specialist Brisbane
Using a WDH will return weight to the front wheels (and Jeep recommend one towing an ATM over 2268kg anyway), but it won't do anything much to lift a saggy rear. My WDH assembly weighs 32 kg on its own! - but I wouldn't tow without it.
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Re: The Towing thread

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The centre line of the receiver is 385mm above ground
Just measured my Prado at 505mm to centre of receiver. The base of the towball mount is 70mm above that making 575mm above ground.

My van is around 550mm from ground to base of tow ball mount so it all sits pretty level with the load on the towbar.

If the Jeep receiver is only 385mm above ground, I will need a riser of around 170-190mm on the hitch to match the van and get a level ride. Is this possible with a WDH. I can't find much detail on the HR site.

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Just measured my Prado at 505mm to centre of receiver. The base of the towball mount is 70mm above that making 575mm above ground.

My van is around 550mm from ground to base of tow ball mount so it all sits pretty level with the load on the towbar.

If the Jeep receiver is only 385mm above ground, I will need a riser of around 170-190mm on the hitch to match the van and get a level ride. Is this possible with a WDH. I can't find much detail on the HR site.

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I just realised that I quoted this height when QL was at entry height.
At normal ride height the centre line of socket is at 425mm
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The centre line of the receiver is 385mm above ground
You have Quadra Lift correct, so doesn't the height differ depending on the vehicles status?
That is if you done this measurement when it is off, does it not rise when it is turned on, and therefore the height is actually greater?

Edit: you answered as I was typing this.
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I just realised that I quoted this height when QL was at entry height.
At normal ride height the centre line of socket is at 425mm
Thanks Stuch. 425mm sounds better but I still need a big riser to match the van.
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Thanks Stuch. 425mm sounds better but I still need a big riser to match the van.
Try putting the ball mount in upside-down. I had to do this to get the right height for the KK. I was about to say, "try putting your tongue in upside-down" but that had unsavoury connotations.
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Just measured my Prado at 505mm to centre of receiver. The base of the towball mount is 70mm above that making 575mm above ground.

My van is around 550mm from ground to base of tow ball mount so it all sits pretty level with the load on the towbar.

If the Jeep receiver is only 385mm above ground, I will need a riser of around 170-190mm on the hitch to match the van and get a level ride. Is this possible with a WDH. I can't find much detail on the HR site.

Graham
Have you had the vans coupling modified from standard?
I'm under the impression that all couplings must be between 350mm and 460mm above the ground.
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