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Re: The Towing thread

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Do you actually need to see the controller anyway? Hell, do you even need to access the booster lever?
Once it is set up correctly it is basically forget it and concentrate on driving.
This may be different for off-road when are going slow and judging each section and maybe require to nearly lock up the trailer.
But in regular road driving, in an emergency situation I am not taking my eyes of the road or hands of the wheel.

Is there really a legal requirement to see it?
I'm with you Snuke, I'm not taking my eyes off the road or hands off the wheel if shit is happening.
I also don't believe there is a requirement to see a display.

It's pretty clear that Pomdave's installer didn't want to do the job, and in that case it would be pointless pushing to an end result that was less then successful.
I'll let you into a secret, I travel with my cubby door shut.
After over a hundred thousand K of towing with a P3 and 30,000 odd with the Jeep, I have the utmost confidence in the vehicle, the controller and my van to do everything possible without me reducing my concentration on whatever is happening and trying some sleight of hand trick. Nah, not going to happen.

The ipad sits on the console in front of the closed cubby door and does an excellent job of providing mapping.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:52 AM
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I'll let you into a secret, I travel with my cubby door shut.
I expect we will do the same. Once I have set them up in the past I havenít touched them except for when the load has drastically changed, and I dial it a little one way or another.

Probably right, they thought it was too much hard work. That is why I made it part of my contract with the dealer. They can fit it, no headache for me in any way shape or form except driving there to drop it off when required.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:31 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

It is/was in my contract with the dealer to be supplied with electric brake controller, but in fairness to the dealer it was their auto-electrician who said he wouldn't do it, not the dealer themselves.

The dealer was prepared to find an alternative provider to have it fitted, but that would obviously impacted delivery date, in the end we made a deal and I pick up my jeep tomorrow and I will make arrangments for getting the braker controller fitted myself and at my leisure (good job it's not summer yet!)

So, I'm still looking for any recommendation for a place to get one fitted in Melbourne (inner or western suburbs) if anyone else has had this done and was happy with the workmanship.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:35 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

I know a guy in Box Hill I wouldn't use again.
Fitted hitch and brake controller. Get it home, next day to tow to Sydney, hmmm no brakes on trailer. Hadn't wired it up properly to the battery. Very simple to fix, so simple it was scary he missed it.
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Re: The Towing thread

The thing that would get up my nose, and probably did yours Pomdave, is that the dealers installer fed you a line, perhaps believing you were stupid, rather than being open and saying that it was a bit beyond him and he was concerned that if he broke something or it didn't work, he was in a no-win situation.
I hate that approach to customer relations.
You'll certainly be better off going someplace else.
When I was looking around for a towbar 2 years ago our local HR supplier was straight enough to say he had some bad experiences with can bus equipped vehicles and he would prefer not to take it on. I respected that, and arranged a Mopar alternative.
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:25 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

As an alternative, I installed my P3 under the dash directly in line with the steering column, see the photo. If I'm driving straight, it is covered by the centre spoke of the steering wheel so not obtrusive at night. I can see it if I move my head a little and I can easily reach the lever. Initially I thought it was quite vulnerable so I mounted it in the cradle supplied in order to pop it out when not needed. However, surprisingly, I haven't come close to kicking it yet so I just leave it there. Actually, the headlight/fog switch is the most problematic for me. I keep bumping it with my knee when getting in or out. I mounted the P3 just forward of the air-bag flap (probably illegal). I dare say in the event of the air-bag going off, it would knock the P3 out of its cradle but that would be the least of my worries.

For cars with electric steering column adjustment, another solution I've heard of is to mount it on the flat plastic area under the steering column. Unfortunately the Laredo has mechanical steering column adjustment and this is where the lever is located.
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Re: The Towing thread

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It is/was in my contract with the dealer to be supplied with electric brake controller, but in fairness to the dealer it was their auto-electrician who said he wouldn't do it, not the dealer themselves.

The dealer was prepared to find an alternative provider to have it fitted, but that would obviously impacted delivery date, in the end we made a deal and I pick up my jeep tomorrow and I will make arrangments for getting the braker controller fitted myself and at my leisure (good job it's not summer yet!)

So, I'm still looking for any recommendation for a place to get one fitted in Melbourne (inner or western suburbs) if anyone else has had this done and was happy with the workmanship.
I am getting it done by the auto elec that New Age Caravans (Epping) use. No idea what he is like but I can't imagine he would get continuing business if he was no good. His details are: glenn 0418 349 237 info@powertobefree.com.au. Good luck!
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I expect we will do the same. Once I have set them up in the past I haven’t touched them except for when the load has drastically changed, and I dial it a little one way or another.

Probably right, they thought it was too much hard work. That is why I made it part of my contract with the dealer. They can fit it, no headache for me in any way shape or form except driving there to drop it off when required.
Yeah. I never look at our p3's screen in our outback. I do just push the override leaver once per drive to make sure all is working.
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Re: The Towing thread

Does anybody on here know if a hayman Reece weight distribution hitch will fit a mopar tow bar. Are the dimensions of the receiver the same size.
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Does anybody on here know if a hayman Reece weight distribution hitch will fit a mopar tow bar. Are the dimensions of the receiver the same size.
It just needs a touch ground off the outside corners of the HR shank to match the slight difference in radius. It'll fit.
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Thanks John for the info. Couldn't try my wdh today as have leant it a friend. Hopefully have it back by the weekend and get to work with a bit of grinding to make it fit the mopar receiver.
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Reverse Sensor Behaviour

Hi guys,

I'm still deliberating my trailer wiring / towbar provider. My boat isn't particularly demanding to tow, but I have concerns about the implementation of the various wiring kits

Does the Mopar trailer wiring solution automatically deactivate the rear reversing sensors when a trailer is connected? This is what my dealer said, but hey... I don't trust them much these days for some mysterious reason

Does anyone have a non-genuine trailer wiring solution that disables the rear sensors when the trailer is connected, or do you guys push the button to silence them each ignition cycle?

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