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Picked up my new boat yesterday. Guess where I am now. Yep back at the dealer. It has an American style hitch which is complete crap. Found out last night trying to park it on my drive that it does not have a manual brake. WTF. My drive is a little steep and i dont trust a couple of chocks to stop it crashing into the back pf my GC when i wound ip the jocky wheel. I was iffy about it when I ordered but my focus was on the boat not the trailer. So another 300k today to take it back to dealer to get an Aus type hitch welded on. What a drama....
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:24 PM
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Question in reference to the "Trailer Tow Group IV" package. The dealers near me don't have any units in the configuration I'm interested in:
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4x2, never drive off road in the G.Cherokee; that's what the Wrangler is for.
--> $795 Trailer Tow Group IV in case I need to tow something. But, Jeep's website says this package includes/implies upgraded cooling, load-leveling suspension, 220-Amp alternator and more importantly, better brakes.

I'm interested in everyone's opinion, is ordering one with the trailer tow group IV worth it in order to get the enhanced/upgraded components ?

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I am guessing by your use of the word "gas" and specifying 4x2 Overland you are American. If so you have stumbled across the export towing thread, where most posters are from Australia.
The trailer Tow Group is fitted as standard to our cars minus the tow hitch, we only get the 4x2 in a Laredo, everything else is 4x4.

If you are in the US as I suspect then yes get the tow group.
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Here is how the put the wire in for the brake controller.
I may just pull it out when not is use. There is a square section of EVA foam in the boot, they may be good enough to jam in and stop any movement with some slight cutting.

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Got a Laredo CRD with QL and Off Road Advance Group. If towing only the CRD makes any sense in my experience. Mine is phenomenal towing a 27th off road van. You already get all the Tow Group stuff as well. Quarantine Lift is also in my mind a must for towing. You'll save money over time as you won't need to upgrade bits later on such as coils etc.
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How much does your 27ft off road van weigh I am getting a 20ft Spinifex off road van built in February which will be close to max weight loaded. I would have liked extra 3ft but they have things well sorted with enough room to get around bed, kitchen / dinette and bathroom. I should be able to adjust weight by how much water I carry for shower drinking water is separate. I have a Overland CRD which I am extremely happy with and can't wait to see how it tows. Will post picks of build.
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:57 PM
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Re: The Towing thread

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Picked up my new boat yesterday. Guess where I am now. Yep back at the dealer. It has an American style hitch which is complete crap. Found out last night trying to park it on my drive that it does not have a manual brake. WTF. My drive is a little steep and i dont trust a couple of chocks to stop it crashing into the back pf my GC when i wound ip the jocky wheel. I was iffy about it when I ordered but my focus was on the boat not the trailer. So another 300k today to take it back to dealer to get an Aus type hitch welded on. What a drama....

What type of boat is it?
I to have a US trailer and it also has no park brake so I have to always carry wheel chocks with me.

Post some picks of your new set up.
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Hi SNUKE,

Indeed, I was wondering how it seemed most of the thread included comments by Aussies and Kiwis. My bad.

Thanks for bringing this (export thread) to my attention.
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It's a MY14 Searay 190 Sport, as far as I know it's one of the first delivered in Aus. I replaced a 2002 model, Very happy with the boat, but the trailer is junk compared to my old Boeing. I also use chocks, but I just don't think it is safe without a manual brake as well. Anyway, should be sorted with a new hitch by next weekend.
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Thanks for the responses Xdra10 and Silverhammer.

Xdra10, the local dealers actually have exactly what I'm interested in however, they're either Cashmere, Green or Red, neither of which I'm buying. In order to get and Overland 4x2, Billet Silver with Trailer Tow Package IV, I'd have to special order from JNAP which greatly diminishes any negotiating room for me on price. ;-)

Silverhammer, I totally agree with you on the diesel motor, especially when it comes to the torque-wow! However, for my needs/wants, the USD $4,500 premium is too much to justify. Don't get me wrong, if both motor options were the same price, I'd get the CRD. Are you saying Jeep also swaps out the suspension's coils when the Trailer Tow Package IV is installed at the factory?
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No sorry in Oz the Trailer Tow package is included in the base spec, not as an option for CRDs.

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Hi Silverhammer

How much does your 27ft off road van weigh I am getting a 20ft Spinifex off road van built in February which will be close to max weight loaded. I would have liked extra 3ft but they have things well sorted with enough room to get around bed, kitchen / dinette and bathroom. I should be able to adjust weight by how much water I carry for shower drinking water is separate. I have a Overland CRD which I am extremely happy with and can't wait to see how it tows. Will post picks of build.
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My 19ft van tare is 2450kg, with 300L of water and 200kg of gear, near enough to 3000kg. Balance is more important to me, so weight distribution was a big design issue. Have only done short tows but looks like 15L/100km is likely to be worst case fuel. Love it.

Also have 3 water tanks that can be balanced. We went for a shower toilet combo at rear (rather than ensuite), sideways QS bed at front, with all the heavy bits in the middle, to ensure minimum pendulum effect.

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Oops: bluddy auto correct 27th off road van should be 19ft!!!!
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Oops: bluddy auto correct 27th off road van should be 19ft!!!!
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Max my favourite was "Quarantine Lift is also in my mind a must for towing"

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Oops: bluddy auto correct 27th off road van should be 19ft!!!!
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At 27ft I would have been extremely jealous of ball room inside the van but it would be a little unwieldy. My 20ft van will be my first and I can't wait till Feb.
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