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Old 03-04-2014, 02:28 AM
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Oh, and I always recover via the towing system, despite what the legal department made them write on it. As such, I didn't refit the rear ground anchor

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Old 03-04-2014, 03:33 AM
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Mopar bar allows for what I believe to be the only available long range tank to be fitted.

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100% correct.
I have the HR bar and I took my car to Long Range Automotive for them to have a look at whether or not it was possible to fit one of their tanks with the HR bar. There is absolutely no way it will fit.

The LRA tank wasn't around when I got my bar fitted.
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:28 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

Thanks guys I think I will go with the mopar one, I live in Melb has anyone been able to get abetter price than $1200 fitted.
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Thanks guys I think I will go with the mopar one, I live in Melb has anyone been able to get abetter price than $1200 fitted.
Sorry I got mine thrown in when I purchased the car
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Hi, I've got myself a 12/13 towbar and wiring harness that I'm away the fit to my '14 GC. I was wondering what the differences between it and the 2014 version of the towbar and wiring harness is.
The 12/13 version has a flexible piece of trim that's fitted around the hole that's cut out in the bumper is the 2014 the same or does it have a hard plastic bezel similar to the US version?

The 12/13 wiring harness has a 7 pin plug at the towbar end and another plug at the car end. The instruction say it plugs in to a socket on the cars wiring loom but I've read posts saying that the towbar wiring harness had to be spliced in the the cars wiring loom?

Can the wiring harness be installed without removing the bumper?

Does any one have the installation instructions for both the 2014 towbar and the 2014 wiring harness that they could send.

Any help on the above would be great.
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:32 AM
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I believe that the bar is identical mate. The guts is it fits fine and the compliance is valid. The MY14 harness is an elusive beast, and as it has to be cut in I feel it's no biggie to miss out on. If it plugged in or had reverse sensor deactivation I'd have wanted it.

The MY14 bumper cutout is the same as MY13. I did it neat and left the pinchweld off, as to me that looks like a shit job covered up. It'd be nice if there was a cover plate commensurate with the vehicle's aesthetic... I guess you could order in the US part though it doesn't actually cover the unused receiver.

As mentioned, you need to cut in the harness. You don't need to remove the bumper to do this, however you do to fit the towbar itself. The cut out is easier to make neat when working on a pair of trestles too!

I can send you the MY13 towbar instructions if you PM me your email address. The harness instructions I threw out, essentially as they had no value relevant to the task. Maybe see if someone has a MY14 document... but I didn't find the job more difficult for not having it.

For what it's worth, I heard rumour that there may be a connection around the firewall (?) of the MY14... which accepts a special breakout box... which when programmed in by a dealer... and then cabled along the entire vehicle... offers trailer lighting circuits. If you dig deep you might find where I read this, but it seemed too hard to get the requisites so I just got the diags out

I hired a big and nasty trailer with a full complement of incandescent lighting including side marker and height marker lamps. There were no issues due to loading the vehicle circuits with the trailer lighting. I was quietly concerned about the tail signal as I started the car!

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Re: The Towing thread

Did some research on the safety chain shackle thing. It's a dog's breakfast. All states and territories are similar but different. There are federal requirements and ADR but basically it comes down to Australian Standard AS 4177.4-2004 'Caravan and light trailer towing components Part 4: Safety chains up to 3500kg capacity'. Unfortunately it costs money even to look at it.

My trailer has two chains marked PWB 4177-25. So they are made by PWD, comply with AS 4177 and are rated for a trailer ATM of 2,500kg. Each chain has to be able to take the full ATM on its own. So what about the shackle? I asked PWD. They said the only issue is to get a rated shackle (Grade S) that fits both the chain and the towbar attachment point. The Mopar bar has attachment point holes of about 13mm dia. The largest Grade S shackle that fits this is PWD's size 10 which has a 12mm pin. The shackle loop is 10mm dia which easily goes through the 20mm hole in the chain link. According to PWD's table, this sixe 10 shackle has a working load limit (WLL) of 1,000kg. That's probably OK. If my trailer was hanging over the edge of a cliff, I think I would want the shackle to fail. However, the problem is that one might have a 2,000kg ATM trailer, a 2,500kg ATM rated chain and a shackle with WLL 1,00kg stamped on it. So how is the average vanner and the boys in blue supposed to know it all matches? At this point, I think the only reasonable thing we have to go on is PWD's advice to use the largest Grade S shackle that fits both the chain and the towbar fixing point.
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Did some research on the safety chain shackle thing. It's a dog's breakfast.
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At this point, I think the only reasonable thing we have to go on is PWD's advice to use the largest Grade S shackle that fits both the chain and the towbar fixing point.
Thats about the guts of it Bob, and easier said than done with the difficult access provided to the tow bar fixing point on the Australian WK2 Jeep in particular.
I see scary connections on all sorts of vehicles at this point regularly, vans and trailers both. Tiny el cheapo unrated shackles used, snap clips, and even fencing wire.
Just another reason to require a towing endorsement that includes a towing course on our license - well my thoughts anyway. Likely wouldn't change the situation however….
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Thats about the guts of it Bob, and easier said than done with the difficult access provided to the tow bar fixing point on the Australian WK2 Jeep in particular.
I see scary connections on all sorts of vehicles at this point regularly, vans and trailers both. Tiny el cheapo unrated shackles used, snap clips, and even fencing wire.
Just another reason to require a towing endorsement that includes a towing course on our license - well my thoughts anyway. Likely wouldn't change the situation however….
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Perhaps you should have another read - I didn't suggest another license.

To clarify then - I believe that education and training can only be a positive, particularly given that anyone with a car licence - regardless of age or ability or experience can hook up a van of any size and go.

I've seen too many people that appeared totally incompetent dragging things around - possibly in blissful ignorance - and that doesn't have to be.

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Reduced queues at the boat ramp due to poor reversing skills? Just a thought...

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Reduced queues at the boat ramp due to poor reversing skills? Just a thought...

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How hard can it be?
Zoom halfway down the ramp. Hit the brakes, and wait for velocity to launch the boat. EasyPeasy.
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