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Old 04-01-2014, 08:51 PM
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Re: The Towing thread

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It is something i need to chat to my dealer about
The last time i used the jeep off road it did lower it self from off road 2 to normal road level when i switched off get get out and move an obstical.
I've experienced similar to this some time ago also. I didn't get as far as working out if it was in all 4WD modes. Interestingly, I've been leaving the car in ORII a few times over the last week as I've been crawling under chasing a rattle / squeak. Every morning it was still at full height.

I have no idea what has changed... perhaps it was a Uconnect update... maybe the one which addressed auto entry exit?

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I've experienced similar to this some time ago also. I didn't get as far as working out if it was in all 4WD modes. Interestingly, I've been leaving the car in ORII a few times over the last week as I've been crawling under chasing a rattle / squeak. Every morning it was still at full height.

I have no idea what has changed... perhaps it was a Uconnect update... maybe the one which addressed auto entry exit?

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Hi fwdjeep & Barboots,

My interpretation of the QL function comes from reading the explanation in the Owners Manual. I do not have my vehicle yet, so cannot verify its accuracy.

Can I be so bold as to suggest you both read the manual and then in your own vehicles verify/validate what is written in the manual is accurate and a true description of what is 'supposed' to happen.

It may be that both of you had a malfunctioning QL system and that yours Barboots was 'fixed' by a Uconnect update. Maybe a Uconnect update resets all user preferences back to factory and this results in the disabling of the Auto Entry/Exit mode, or it could just be 'finger trouble'.

However, from my understanding, the car should not lower to Auto Entry/Exit height from ORA1 or ORA2 (as set on selec-terrain) if you turn off the car. It should only do so if the "shift lever is in 'PARK', the terrain switch is in 'AUTO', the transfer-case is in 'AUTO' and the vehicle level should be either in Normal or Aero Mode."

Irrespective of the Auto Entry/Exit setting, it is my belief that the vehicle should remain at the height it was last set to unless you have exceeded the speed parameters for that mode. The vehicle will drop out of ORA2 to ORA1 if you go faster than 40km/h, and drop out of ORA1 to Normal Road Height (NRH) if you exceed 64km/h for more than 20 Seconds or if you exceed 80km/h.

I look forward to reading about your journey of QL discovery

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Re: The Towing thread

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My Laredo with QL and ORA2 certainly adjusts it's height when left. UNLESS you leave a door open...The manual supports this discovery. Any height movement or later adjustments will not happen if a door not tailgate is left open. I was told this by a dealer and verified it in manual before testing. Needed to 'freeze' height at aero for a wheel alignment by a non dealer specialist hence my interest initially. It's a safety thing according to manual. Shouldve noted where it's quoted, will have a look but on my car it definitely works. It's a bugger if your entry/exit lowering hasn't finished when you open the door. So if working on the car leave a door open (or 2 for safety).
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My Laredo with QL and ORA2 certainly adjusts it's height when left. UNLESS you leave a door open...The manual supports this discovery. Any height movement or later adjustments will not happen if a door not tailgate is left open. I was told this by a dealer and verified it in manual before testing. Needed to 'freeze' height at aero for a wheel alignment by a non dealer specialist hence my interest initially. It's a safety thing according to manual. Shouldve noted where it's quoted, will have a look but on my car it definitely works. It's a bugger if your entry/exit lowering hasn't finished when you open the door. So if working on the car leave a door open (or 2 for safety).
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From page 436 Owners manual:- "The system requires that the engine be running for all changes. When lowering the vehicle all of the doors, including the liftgate, must be closed. If a door is opened at any time while the vehicle is lowering the change will not be completed until the open door(s) is closed.

Which is correct, Max? Reality or the manual?
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Re: The Towing thread

Hi Gr8ness
Your manual text is much appreciated, it verifies my experience except for tailgate. I've sat on the back bumper with tailgate up many times whilst out in the bush and observed the car adjust it's height. Could be I need to lose a bit of weight but that's another story. Leave a door open and no movements. Open a door whilst raising/lowering and the EVIC will rebuke you sharply and stop the action.

So short story, tailgate and doors have different effect.

I can understand that Jeep may theorise less of a safety issue as no one is entering or exiting, I guess. Hope this helps. Test it out, idiosyncrasies have been known to creep into Jeeps....It might be just mine.

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Max,

I would like to think that Jeep got the manual correct, but as we have seen with many other aspects of this vehicle, all is not what it seems......

I can certainly appreciate the sense of stopping suspension movement on a door opening but as you say it is a bit harder to see a 'safety' risk associated with a tailgate opening. (especially since the individual opening the tailgate has most likely already had to open a door).

I'll take reality of theory on this one.

It may sound somewhat pedantic to worry about such things but I am trying to develop a good understanding of the various 'features' of this vehicle before mine is delivered.

I am developing a pre-delivery acceptance check-off list for myself that I and the salesperson will go through on 'the day'. The check-off list covers aspects like the QL functions, safety features, ensuring latest versions of Uconnect and navigation software are installed etc etc.

The car will not leave the dealers yard until all is correct. If I have waited 5 months, I can wait another few days for it all to be correct.

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Re: The Towing thread

And carparks with a concrete lip !!!

I always reverse in now to a car park

1) so someone will only hit the towbar
2) Driving into a car park depending on the size of the car park and the concrete lip at the front. When it goes into auto/exit the front underneath plastic in front of each wheel has just touched the concrete !!

If it was any higher there would have been a almighty crunch.

Just something to be aware of.

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Hi Gr8ness
Your manual text is much appreciated, it verifies my experience except for tailgate. I've sat on the back bumper with tailgate up many times whilst out in the bush and observed the car adjust it's height. Could be I need to lose a bit of weight but that's another story. Leave a door open and no movements. Open a door whilst raising/lowering and the EVIC will rebuke you sharply and stop the action.

So short story, tailgate and doors have different effect.

I can understand that Jeep may theorise less of a safety issue as no one is entering or exiting, I guess. Hope this helps. Test it out, idiosyncrasies have been known to creep into Jeeps....It might be just mine.

Max
Ours won't lower while the lift gate is open - otherwise my experience is the same as Silverhammers…..

When i want to get under mine I raise it up, disable the QL and get the confirmation message on the EVIC, stick stands under, and open a couple of doors.
I just don't trust software.
Unfortunately I have damaged myself from clipping the underside of the open door - you can be unlucky.
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Sorry send button on the iphone is in the wrong place...what I wanted to say is I love owning a car which has a system that corrects it's self for "proper appearance"
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I'm waiting for it to correct itself for "proper function"
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