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Old 05-09-2014, 04:26 AM
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According to this image, there is no cut out for the Taurus towbars. Can anyone see this too?
I think there is one or it could be just a reflection. But then again that plastic does not reflect.
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Old 05-09-2014, 04:41 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

Definitely a cut out to my eyes... I can see the ground between the bar and bumper.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:13 PM
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Just because I'm out front having a coffee with the dog...

I see you have rated bow-shackles. Do you leave them on permanently then connect to the chain with another shackle?
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:36 PM
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Re: The Towing thread

Yes and no Bob.

My Dunbier boat trailer's chain is long enough to make the distance and go straight on. The chain just sneaks over the bow part of the shackle. To be honest it's possibly undersized and there's only one, but it's the chain the trailer was licenced with. Go figure.

My rusty 6x4 needs an intermediate shackle and this needs to be an unrated hardware store type or under-rated. I never carry anything heavy in the old thing so would only attend to the issue if defected. That's not going to happen here in the wild West :sly:

One thing I've not checked into is whether dual chains are a retrospective upgrade here in WA. I see a lot of singles around on new looking trailers. That said, next time I get any welding done I'll be adding another chain to the boat trailer... I didn't like it from day one.

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Re: The Towing thread

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Yes and no Bob.

My Dunbier boat trailer's chain is long enough to make the distance and go straight on. The chain just sneaks over the bow part of the shackle. To be honest it's possibly undersized and there's only one, but it's the chain the trailer was licenced with. Go figure.

My rusty 6x4 needs an intermediate shackle and this needs to be an unrated hardware store type or under-rated. I never carry anything heavy in the old thing so would only attend to the issue if defected. That's not going to happen here in the wild West :sly:

One thing I've not checked into is whether dual chains are a retrospective upgrade here in WA. I see a lot of singles around on new looking trailers. That said, next time I get any welding done I'll be adding another chain to the boat trailer... I didn't like it from day one.

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In Western Australia (and the rest of Australia), it is only necessary to have one chain if the trailer ATM is less than 2.5 tons.
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16.2 Drawbar Safety Chains

All pig trailers with rigid drawbars (with or without breakaway brakes but excluding converter dollies) and, any other trailer without breakaway brakes, must be fitted with safety chains that are marked in accordance with the relevant Australian Standard and (or cables as applicable) complying with the following:
  • trailers that do not exceed 2.5 tonnes ATM must have at least one safety chain complying with Australian Standard AS 4177.4-1994 or Australian Standard AS 4177.4-2004 'Caravan and light trailer towing components Part 4: Safety chains up to 3500kg capacity', or be a safety cable with a certified load capacity of the same;
  • trailers over 2.5 tonnes and not exceed 3.5 tonnes ATM must have two safety chains of designation of 3500 kg complying with Australian Standard AS 4177.4-1994 or Australian Standard AS 4177.42004;
  • trailers over 3.5 tonnes ATM must have two safety chains made from steel of a minimum 800 MPa breaking stress that conforms to the mechanical properties of Grade T chain as specified in Australian Standard AS 2321-1979 'Short Link Chain for Lifting Purposes (non calibrated)' or Australian Standard AS 2321-2006 'Short Link Chain for Lifting Purposes.' Each chain must be sized such that the minimum breaking load exceeds the ATM.

However, I'm not sure it is such a good idea. Once up in the Pilbara the Jayco Camper came off the ball and one of the chains had completely worn through by the time I was able to stop. It was in a concrete culvert so the chain was worn very quickly, but even so it could have been a real disaster.
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:18 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

Thanks for doing my research for me Peter ;-)

I do love it how the VSB documents often refer to Australian Standards, which are far harder to access for the ordinary bloke. You reckon they would have taken the opportunity to make it self contained where practicable. Ooops... this is the Government...

However I agree with you... two chains just makes sense. You can form a cradle by crossing them and possibly keep the whole thing off the ground too. Not that my boat trailer ever seems to want to head that way, especially when fully fuelled... but there's always a first time. Single axle trailers should have to have two chains in my "couch expert" opinion! I mean what's the drawback... ten bucks cost or something?

Was your hitch failure related to a poly off-road coupling by chance?

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Re: The Towing thread

just an already ball coupling. Long time ago and terribly rough road between Karratha and Tom Price back in the 80's. the ball came off, probably because I forgot to lock it down. these things happen, that's why we need chains.
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Thanks for doing my research for me Peter ;-)

I do love it how the VSB documents often refer to Australian Standards, which are far harder to access for the ordinary bloke. You reckon they would have taken the opportunity to make it self contained where practicable. Ooops... this is the Government...
If only they were government owned. They were once and were easily accessible but not now. Standards Australia is wholly owned by SAI Global Ltd. SAI Global is listed on the stock exchange. They need to make money and likewise charge like a wounded bull. They operate under a memo of understanding with the Australian government to set Australian standards. So effectively they have a monopoly. One thing to note, Australian Standards are not legal in themselves but become so only when specifically written into legislation or a contracts.
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Re: The Towing thread

Yeah I'm aware of this Bob... I've been an Australian Standards subscriber for automotive matters in previous employment. It's damned expensive... and recurring at that.

What I was suggesting would make sense is for the government issued VSBs to specify the more simple specifics... in this context, the chain specification. If they want compliance, that'd be a good start.

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Yeah I'm aware of this Bob... I've been an Australian Standards subscriber for automotive matters in previous employment. It's damned expensive... and recurring at that.

What I was suggesting would make sense is for the government issued VSBs to specify the more simple specifics... in this context, the chain specification. If they want compliance, that'd be a good start.

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Very true!
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Re: The Towing thread

Whats the best price people have picked up the Mopar 2014 bar and wiring loom for? $740 was the cheapest I could find but that was in Melb amd would need deliver to Sydney.
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Old 05-14-2014, 06:12 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

I am wondering if the Mopar tow bar for the 2014 Overland CRD, 5.7 and 3.6 are exactly the same, but just have different max loads.

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