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Old 07-11-2014, 06:32 AM
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Re: The Towing thread

My old man "ripped the @rse" off his 120 Series Prado when he went across a culvert having forgotten to drop the WDH off. He didn't take photos, but I saw the repair cost... it obviously did severe damage to the mounting points on the car.
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Old 07-11-2014, 07:05 AM
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Thanks Allypally. I must admit I've been unable to find that in my (cursory) searches, but as I intend to get some anyway I'll bite the bullet before my next trip.
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At a guess, you're using a monitor with quad split images Allypally. What size monitor do you have for that and how does it go with detailing the multiple images? I was thinking that if I'm going to do this camera thing...

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I use a 7" screen, which connects to 2 side cams, and 2 rear cams. One of the rear's points downwards, which is ideal for reversing.
I can change the screen to 1 cam, 2 cams, or all 4 at once. One of the rear's has a mic, so if someone is behind the van guiding me into a tight spot, I can hear them without them yelling.
A better system would be 3 cams, with the rear one motorised, so it covers both tasks. The other benefit of a 3 cam setup is that you can get a woza lead between jeep and van, so you only have the 1 connection.
If buying a cam, for the rear, make sure the angle is no greater than 90deg.
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Re: The Towing thread

Hi All,
It's my first post and have read this thread bar about 10 pages. My eyes hurt!v I've had my GC for about a month and a half and love it. Its a Laredo diesel with leather seats and a sunroof. I've also got a tow bar, Anderson plug and P3. I use it to tow a 16'6" horse float that weighs about 1700 empty. I had the dealership install the P3 and there are problems with it. The dealership has been great to deal with and I do believe that they can't find a problem. I've been told to take both float and car to an auto sparky and they'll cover the cost.

The problem is the one mentioned re lights. To start with the tail and running lights normally work , then they just turn off. The brake lights, stop lights and indicators still all work. A couple of times the running and tail lights went out when I released the foot brake. Other times they just went out as I was driving along.

Can anyone tell me definitely what is causing the problem? I also need the details of a good auto sparky in the south east of Melbourne. I'm happy to take the float and travel within reason so I can get it sorted once and for all!

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It's my first post and have read this thread bar about 10 pages. My eyes hurt!v I've had my GC for about a month and a half and love it. Its a Laredo diesel with leather seats and a sunroof. I've also got a tow bar, Anderson plug and P3. I use it to tow a 16'6" horse float that weighs about 1700 empty. I had the dealership install the P3 and there are problems with it. The dealership has been great to deal with and I do believe that they can't find a problem. I've been told to take both float and car to an auto sparky and they'll cover the cost.

The problem is the one mentioned re lights. To start with the tail and running lights normally work , then they just turn off. The brake lights, stop lights and indicators still all work. A couple of times the running and tail lights went out when I released the foot brake. Other times they just went out as I was driving along.
Can anyone tell me definitely what is causing the problem? I also need the details of a good auto sparky in the south east of Melbourne. I'm happy to take the float and travel within reason so I can get it sorted once and for all!

Many Thanks,
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I had the same issue with mine (caravan with running lights/tail lights). Fortunately it was an auto electrician sorting it out at my home. There is a fuse/circuit breaker in the engine bay that is specifically for tail lights on the tow vehicle, and although it is rated high enough (30A from memory) it keeps cutting out. My sparky sorted it out by patching in a relay.
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Hi Has anyone had to replace the tow coupling on the caravan?
How did you know that it was worn out?
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Old 07-11-2014, 08:27 PM
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Can anyone tell me definitely what is causing the problem? I also need the details of a good auto sparky in the south east of Melbourne. I'm happy to take the float and travel within reason so I can get it sorted once and for all!

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Not sure how far South you are (what suburb?) but Matty470 (has used and recommended a mob in Lilydale, see below for details:

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I had mine fitted by my local auto elec in the centre cubby.
They've done a good job but I had to take in the instructions for the removal of the cubby from wk2jeeps.com as they'd never done one before.
Depending on how far in Melb you want to travel can be a sticking point though.
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I knew you broke your Treg. It puzzled me because I have one and they seem immensely strong. However, on reading this, it occurred to me that a WDH would put considerably more bending moment onto the hitch than would have been there otherwise. Then I found this little tidbit in the ADR VSB1, Section 16.3,
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Load levelling bars should only be used with towbars designed for load levelling. Very high forces can be generated when the vehicle and trailer combination travels through dips in the roadway. These high forces may exceed the design limits of the towbar and or its mountings."
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There is nothing on the Treg site about WDH's. Some of the Hitchmaster couplings are stated to be compatible with the HR WDH.
Bob, I have no criticism of the Treg, and your comment is spot on.

Yep it broke, and had it not happened at 60k on the dirt of the Plenty Hwy, there may have been serious consequences, but given the workout the hitch had done I wasn't surprised.
The hitch had clocked up well over 200 thousand k. It was showing some wear in the main block and I very nearly replaced it with a McHitch just before we left but decided on one last trip! Murphy's Law.

We have dragged the van across most of the worst roads in Australia and then some, it has done the Gibb a couple of times, the Great Central, the Gulf a few times and on and on. I've hit many, many concrete dish drains across the road far faster than I should have and the forces that have been imposed are certainly likely to have been in excess of design. Our Patrols and now the Jeep have coped with no issues (and I do regularly check the tow bar and mountings).

With the 2012 model rear view camera and no shadow I can put the jaw exactly in place for the wife to drop the pin into place.
Now I have a new Treg courtesy of Alice Springs we are looking forward to the next couple of hundred thousand k's and using the WDH.
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Old 07-19-2014, 08:49 PM
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The Best Bars Mopar hitch is 51mm square.
The HR one is 50mm it appears to be solid and a lot longer then the one you have in your photos.

Here is some photos and measurements

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I got hold of the local HR guys and they told me that modifying the set up could void the warranty. (No big surprise)
I asked if I could cut it down and that was a big no no apparently as it is a cast piece and when i go to drill a another hole for the hitch pin it could cause fractures.
After talking to him for a bit I ended up grinding down the edges a little at a time to ensure I get the tightest fit.

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Just curious Mr Boxhead... what was the reason behind wanting to shorten it and re-drill the pin aperture?

I'm currently "weighing up" all the guff to do with WDH in general and also the various flavours, so am curious what you've found wanting.

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On the Falcon it sat a lot closer to the rear bar. The jeep receiver is a lot shorter so the HR one stocks out a fair way
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Re: The Towing thread

I was concerned about this as without seeing one, it appeared that this would be the result of marrying the two. I need to look at the setup when fitted to a Hayman Reese towbar. Anyone have a pic of a WK2 with a HR WDH on a HR bar?

That said, you shouldn't have to shorten the HR adaptor as there's no end to the Mopar receiver opening. It could just push on through. You'd have to have a new hole drilled for the desired pin position. I'm not sure about the process creating fractures in the steel either... I'd need to see a White Paper before taking this as gospel! However the alternative is to drill the Mopar towbar to suit the position of the receiver adaptor's pin opening.

Unfortunately any of this comprises modification to the system, and thus technically voids the compliance. This risk is minuscule, but the repercussions potentially massive.

Tough call. Maybe just wear cricket pads?

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