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As an aside does your mirror fold switch illuminate my 2012 doesn't and it drives me mad!!!!!!
Yes it does... actually the 2014 Overland interior and switchgear illumination is pretty schmick. I've noticed that the overhead lighting is either a conventional filament globe or lower colour temperature, but that won't take long to change out if I feel like matching them to the blue ambient toning

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Re: West Aussie 2014 Overland CRD Owner

Just in case anyone is following my rough VR testing, I spent a while in the car trying various Nav oriented commands. I've got to the point where I can:

- Swich to the navigation home screen by saying "navigation" (about 75% success rate)
- Swich to map view by saying "view map" (about 75% success rate also)
- Set a new route to my home address by saying "go home" or "navigate to home" and confirming with a "yes" (about 95% success rate)
- Cancel the routing by saying "cancel route" (100% success so far!)

Nothing close to entering a destination or finding a POI works with Voice Recognition so far.

It would be interesting to hear how others go. If you can't get any joy, soft reset your U-Connect several times sequentially by holding down the push buttons in the rotary controls under the touch screen. Sorry, I keep forgetting what they are for... I think the left one is "mute". Anyway, I reached this progress point from bugger all working by forcing the unit to reset around ten times in a row. Just keep holding the buttons and count the times the Jeep logo pops up.

Note your GPS accuracy may be a bit rough for a few minutes but settings are retained.

Apparently there is also the "hard reset" of holding down the hot and cold buttons on the driver's (EDIT: PASSENGER'S!) side. This trashes most of your settings. I haven't tried this, however I expect little to gain as I have reached the point where it's become obvious that the road name and POI database is not available to the VR system, or simply not supplied. This is totally unacceptable.

We need to kick up on this. Contact your dealer and make it clear that your purchase decision was based on a scenario such as:
- the VR system allowing the destination entry while moving which you understood the screen keyboard will not;
- that your driving use requires frequent destination entry in response to communications received;
- stopping to do the data entry has caused near misses on re-entering high speed traffic flow and considerable time lost looking for places to pull over.

Do it in writing... I think they will get the picture. I got a more receptive ear when I painted the risk exposure of the situation. Personally, I'd be happy to simply have the motion lock disabled, as I have never bothered to use the Voice Recognition on our 5 Series... I just take my time entering manually as driving conditions permit. It's way less dangerous than changing a CD... especially if it's in the centre console Oh the stupid irony of that reality huh?

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PS: For those who didn't grab it, here's some command info from the previous PDF to play with... I'll also make a copy of the "Quick Reference Guide" I got in my centre console (which I've not hear anyone else refer to yet, but you may all have).

View map.” (Goes to map view.)
“Where am I?” (Shows your current location.)
“Detour.” (Provides an alternate route.)
“Cancel route.” (Cancels the current route.)
“Repeat directions.” (Repeats the directions.)
“Find [city/favorite/place by category/place by name/ recently found/restaurant/fuel/transit/lodging/shopping/ bank/entertainment/recreation/attractions/community/ auto services/hospitals/parking/airport/police stations/fire stations/auto dealers].” e.g., “Find restaurant.”
“Go home.” (Provides directions to the address saved as “home.”)
“Where to?” (Provides ways to find your next destination.)
“Find address: [street address, city, state]”
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:58 PM
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Re: West Aussie 2014 Overland CRD Owner

Awesome!

There are some voice recognition updates in the pipe.... They will be global but at this time I don't have a release time (but much faster than prior NAV platform)

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Just in case anyone is following my rough VR testing, I spent a while in the car trying various Nav oriented commands. I've got to the point where I can:

- Swich to the navigation home screen by saying "navigation" (about 75% success rate)
- Swich to map view by saying "view map" (about 75% success rate also)
- Set a new route to my home address by saying "go home" or "navigate to home" and confirming with a "yes" (about 95% success rate)
- Cancel the routing by saying "cancel route" (100% success so far!)

Nothing close to entering a destination or finding a POI works with Voice Recognition so far.

It would be interesting to hear how others go. If you can't get any joy, soft reset your U-Connect several times sequentially by holding down the push buttons in the rotary controls under the touch screen. Sorry, I keep forgetting what they are for... I think the left one is "mute". Anyway, I reached this progress point from bugger all working by forcing the unit to reset around ten times in a row. Just keep holding the buttons and count the times the Jeep logo pops up.

Note your GPS accuracy may be a bit rough for a few minutes but settings are retained.

Apparently there is also the "hard reset" of holding down the hot and cold buttons on the driver's side. This trashes most of your settings. I haven't tried this, however I expect little to gain as I have reached the point where it's become obvious that the road name and POI database is not available to the VR system, or simply not supplied. This is totally unacceptable.

We need to kick up on this. Contact your dealer and make it clear that your purchase decision was based on a scenario such as:
- the VR system allowing the destination entry while moving which you understood the screen keyboard will not;
- that your driving use requires frequent destination entry in response to communications received;
- stopping to do the data entry has caused near misses on re-entering high speed traffic flow and considerable time lost looking for places to pull over.

Do it in writing... I think they will get the picture. I got a more receptive ear when I painted the risk exposure of the situation. Personally, I'd be happy to simply have the motion lock disabled, as I have never bothered to use the Voice Recognition on our 5 Series... I just take my time entering manually as driving conditions permit. It's way less dangerous than changing a CD... especially if it's in the centre console Oh the stupid irony of that reality huh?

Cheers,
Steve


PS: For those who didn't grab it, here's some command info from the previous PDF to play with... I'll also make a copy of the "Quick Reference Guide" I got in my centre console (which I've not hear anyone else refer to yet, but you may all have).

View map.” (Goes to map view.)
“Where am I?” (Shows your current location.)
“Detour.” (Provides an alternate route.)
“Cancel route.” (Cancels the current route.)
“Repeat directions.” (Repeats the directions.)
“Find [city/favorite/place by category/place by name/ recently found/restaurant/fuel/transit/lodging/shopping/ bank/entertainment/recreation/attractions/community/ auto services/hospitals/parking/airport/police stations/fire stations/auto dealers].” e.g., “Find restaurant.”
“Go home.” (Provides directions to the address saved as “home.”)
“Where to?” (Provides ways to find your next destination.)
“Find address: [street address, city, state]”
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Re: West Aussie 2014 Overland CRD Owner

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Awesome!

There are some voice recognition updates in the pipe.... They will be global but at this time I don't have a release time (but much faster than prior NAV platform)
Good to hear Willx.

I have just tested ours per Barboot's test. Results are as follows:

- Switch to the navigation home screen by saying "navigation" (100% success rate)

- Switch to map view by saying "view map" (100% success rate)

- Set a new route to my home address by saying "go home" or "navigate to home" and confirming with a "yes" (100% success rate)

- Cancel the routing by saying "cancel route" (100% success rate)

- Say 'Repeat Directions' - it appears to react 100% of the time with a notification of 'Repeat Instructions' message appearing in green at the bottom of the screen following the 'processing' msg.

(Maybe it likes my Kiwi accent better. )

However, still cannot do a 'Find address' or 'Find a POI etc'. Same old country of destination not available blah blah... message.

We have not had to use the reboot process at all in the last 7-8 weeks or so since we took delivery.
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Maybe it likes my Kiwi accent
Thanks sjandl and steve for your test results... gives me some confidence that I will have some luck on the weekend when I have a play.... I've decided to do it when the wallabies are getting slaughtered yet again by the all blacks... doing it then will mean I don't have to purchase a new tv..
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My biggest issue is with the ac... as I am concerned about placing two rearward facing carseats in the back so close to the vents which push out extremely hot air. I will be seeking written confirmation from jeep australia that this does not impose any fire risk or safety risk for the newborns.

On another note.... steve have you ever driven across the nullarbor and would you do it again... as I am contemplating heading to perth with the family next november.
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Re: West Aussie 2014 Overland CRD Owner

Two quickies:

- Amendment. Hard reset is via the "Engineering Menu" which is displayed upon holding down the passenger's side hot and cold buttons simultaneously. Apologies for thinking that the buttons would have changed for consistency in the RHD model Note there's a fair bit of data regarding software and hardware versions for us to compare in this hidden menu. I'll do some screen shots soon.

- The Nullabor run is great... even my first pass coming to WA in an overloaded with posessions, heavily modified two door Galant was an enjoyable drive. The return trip to Melbourne and back in my Troopie was a different buzz... the seats were changed for the drive home I think the JGC would make the drive as good as it could get, especially if yours is packing the treats like adaptive cruise. Man I love that. Pano roof would also be good for sightseeing

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Two quickies:

- Amendment. Hard reset is via the "Engineering Menu" which is displayed upon holding down the passenger's side hot and cold buttons simultaneously. Apologies for thinking that the buttons would have changed for consistency in the RHD model Note there's a fair bit of data regarding software and hardware versions for us to compare in this hidden menu. I'll do some screen shots soon.

- The Nullabor run is great... even my first pass coming to WA in an overloaded with posessions, heavily modified two door Galant was an enjoyable drive. The return trip to Melbourne and back in my Troopie was a different buzz... the seats were changed for the drive home I think the JGC would make the drive as good as it could get, especially if yours is packing the treats like adaptive cruise. Man I love that. Pano roof would also be good for sightseeing

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Between the Pano roof and the Nav, make sure you check the road occasionally....the adaptive cruise won't take care of everything
Jeez I was expecting to head out the back and make a coffee

Hey that brings me to a question. You know that truth / urban myth story about the Whingerbago lawsuit where the guy left the wheel thinking the vehicle would drive itself? What was the term Whingerbago had used for the cruise control which caused the old boy to think he could do that? Was it auto-pilot, co-pilot or something like that?

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Thanks sjandl and steve for your test results... gives me some confidence that I will have some luck on the weekend when I have a play.... I've decided to do it when the wallabies are getting slaughtered yet again by the all blacks... doing it then will mean I don't have to purchase a new tv..
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My biggest issue is with the ac... as I am concerned about placing two rearward facing carseats in the back so close to the vents which push out extremely hot air. I will be seeking written confirmation from jeep australia that this does not impose any fire risk or safety risk for the newborns.

On another note.... steve have you ever driven across the nullarbor and would you do it again... as I am contemplating heading to perth with the family next november.
Ahh... a fellow countryman.

Re: your newborns (Congrats and when do they arrive BTW?) Do you plan to utilise the Isofix system in the GC?
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Ahh... a fellow countryman.

Re: your newborns (Congrats and when do they arrive BTW?) Do you plan to utilise the Isofix system in the GC?
They arrive on the 6th of november.... if they don't decide to come earlier, and that is already 2 1/2 weeks early.

As for the isofix... if the seats allow it to be used I will... but will find out in a couple of weeks when we pick up and get the seats installed. As at the time we ordered the seats I didn't know about that feature on the gc. We still don't know whether the 2 seats will fit... so we may have to change them anyway.

We already have had to get different seats for my partners car which will also be compatible with the grand parents car.... don't you just love small hatches
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They arrive on the 6th of november.... if they don't decide to come earlier, and that is already 2 1/2 weeks early.

As for the isofix... if the seats allow it to be used I will... but will find out in a couple of weeks when we pick up and get the seats installed. As at the time we ordered the seats I didn't know about that feature on the gc. We still don't know whether the 2 seats will fit... so we may have to change them anyway.

We already have had to get different seats for my partners car which will also be compatible with the grand parents car.... don't you just love small hatches
6th of November - my mother's birthday.

Re: ISOFIX. It has been a feature on the GC for quite a long time now, as well as other US and Euro vehicles of course. Our '07 WK has it but we couldn't use it with our son at the time because, Australia being Australia, it wasn't legal to do so and no child restraint that was approved for use here was ISOFIX rated. NZ has been able to utilise this feature in all their import US/Euro vehicles for a while now.

However, all that has changed this year of course, the Aust. Design Standard has been amended and ISOFIX is now approved but here's the rub - seats are not available to purchase yet.

Apparently, they should be available around the Nov time but that's no good for you. Could be sooner though, you never know.

All the very best to you and your wife for the impending arrivals. The Jeep's a smooth ride - should be an excellent 'sleeping aid'
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Hey breeders...bugger off outta my thread!
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