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Could I ask where you sourced the box from, I'm yet to permanently secure all my stuff in the battery box.

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Old 02-27-2012, 09:50 PM
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Margins - A $70K GC purchased last year with a rate of say 1:1 against the US$ = $70US. Handing the dealer $70k AUD today at a rate of $1.07 USD equates to an extra $4,900. Where does this amount sit? I know its not as cut and dried as that but in the financial world, Jeep would have surely "forward bought" the US dollars at a lot higher rate than parity. In trading my car last week, an ex Jeep salesman divulged (alledgedly) margins across the range irrespective of currency rates are close to, if not already into double figures.!!!! That aside, and completely contradicting the above, in my opinion, other than the recent spike on diesel limited pricing that I'm sure will soften when Jeep open up supply, this car represents great value compared to it's european rivals! I write the above without predjudice (just in case)
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Not sure if anyone else has fitted there electric braking systems in this location so I thought I would post some photo's. Took a good couple of hours to do but I'm really happy with the result,

The little cover still comes down so when your not towing you can hide everything. On my WH I had the controller up near the windscreen but this time thougt I'd like to hide it better.

The red switch sitting beside it is so I can turn the break controller off while backing my boat down the boat ramp.

The relays drive the electric break controler and the other one feeds the power back to the trailer plug.

Have fitted the relays into a box with extra long leads so you can get it all out of the way when it comes time to replace the battery.

Info on how to rip your dash apart can be found on jeepgarage. And best of all no squeaks rattles or marks on the dash when it was all done
Looks neat, great job and thanks for the photos...
it is exactly where I had planned to put my P3 (when I get my paws on the Jeep) - looks a bit scary with the trim pulled off though - I'll have to make sure the missus is out for the day.
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how much better is the P3 vs something like the Red Arc brake controller?
I was thinking about getting a RedArc and putting the switches on the center console where there are all those empty unused switches
but if a P3 is miles better ill look at that and have to find somewhere to mount it.
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Woo hoo!!!

My JGC was released from quarantine on Friday and is currently in the holding facility being prepped. I should have it next week. I'm delivering my trade in to the dealer on Sunday which is the day the rego expires and he will give me a loan car until it is delivered. I also managed to screw a set of Mopar slush mats from the dealer after politely pointing out to him that the car mats he was "throwing in" were actually included with the car. Heh heh.

I had earlier called AQIS to find out what the story was with releasing the shipment. Talking to the guys at quarantine at Port Kembla, the issue is airborne grass seeds adhering to the sticky plastic protective cover put on the cars. He said that it has held up a number of shipments and the yanks are looking at doing some spraying program in the area around the Storage facility in Baltimore. He told me there were 60 Jeep Grand Cherokees in the shipment cleared on Friday.
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how much better is the P3 vs something like the Red Arc brake controller?
I was thinking about getting a RedArc and putting the switches on the center console where there are all those empty unused switches
but if a P3 is miles better ill look at that and have to find somewhere to mount it.
I dunno if one is better than the other...I've had a HR Guardian on the Patrol for over 100,000k of towing a van and it works great. It is proportional - like the P3 so when I needed a new one to fit I went for supposedly the top of the line proportional controller. I've got used to seeing exactly what the controller is doing. The P3 was cheaper than the Redarc by about $10 so price not a difference.
There have been lots of posts particularly on the Caravaners forum re the Redarc and those that have fitted them appear pretty happy (as you would expect).
I know the Redarc is a lot easier to fit into the dash layout but as it is a straight voltage regulated controller it may depend a bit on the size and configuration of what you are towing whether or not a proportional unit would do a better job.
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Re: WK2 DownUnder

I haven't used any other electric brake controller than the P3. When I bought my boat I needed to fit one and the dealer recommended the P3 so thats what I got. Am very happy with it, like the different settings for the different trailer sizes and its proportional. Got it from this place http://stores.ebay.com.au/4wdextreme, I have no affiliation with the seller. I'm sure there will be reviews somewhere on the web for the Teckonsha and Redarc. The Teckonsha does look ugly hence hiding it in the centre console.

I got the boxes that I used for fitting my break controller from Jaycar.
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This is where I put my brake controller or more correctly where I asked my auto electrician to place it. I opted for Tekonsha Prodigy P2 as it has the same performance of a P3 but less display options. The unit is held in place on a large velcro pad. It is not an original location idea as I borrowed it from another person on another forum in Oz.
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I just dont really like the idea of a bulky(kinda) unit just sitting on the bash or stuck somewhere, which is why the redarc is appealing
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I had a long hard look at the Redarc for exactly that reason. It is small and very easy to locate in an inconspicuous spot in the vehicle. I opted for the Tekonsha P2 because it is a proportional brake controller. The Redarc is not. It is either On (braking) or Off (not braking) with no subtlety in between.

The location of the controller was was dictated by where I could see it and reach it easily without stretching, and while it is visible from the drivers position, it does not dominate the entire dash board. Besides, I take it out when I'm not towing. I thought about the centre storage compartment but I wanted to use that for other things. The dealer did not approve of my location either.

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Yeah the only thing im thinking/worried about is by towing, i mean ill be towing around 1700kg (race car + trailer) once a month or so, whcich is a fair bit of weight, hence why i want to get the right controller.

Although saying that i towed it with a hire trailer and standard mechanical brakes last weekend and it went flawlessly, so easy to tow with the Jeep
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:35 AM
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I find a proportional controller (P3) works a lot better (in my circumstances) than direct. I have tried both.

I'm only towing 1200kg fully loaded but high centre of gravity.
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