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Old 09-19-2011, 09:35 AM
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You realize the only thing on these vehicles that's adjusted is toe? After I replaced my tie rod ends and saw how easy it is to adjust it yourself, I was baffled.
I found that out too, I was really baffled that the guy was having trouble getting it right too.... The only thing is, I don't know how you would measure the toe without an alignment machine anyway....
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I found that out too, I was really baffled that the guy was having trouble getting it right too.... The only thing is, I don't know how you would measure the toe without an alignment machine anyway....
Tape measure and square.
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:28 PM
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Tape measure and square.
Sweet, I guess thats easy enough!

$75 down the drain for a shop to spend 2 hours dinkin around with my damn jeep
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Re: Replaced tie rod end and steering stabilzer

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You realize the only thing on these vehicles that's adjusted is toe? After I replaced my tie rod ends and saw how easy it is to adjust it yourself, I was baffled.

I was aware of it, but as mentioned before, I was also getting new tires the next day....So I just decided to have them balance and align it at one time. For an extra 50 bucks (discounted price).... Why not.
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Sweet, I guess thats easy enough!

$75 down the drain for a shop to spend 2 hours dinkin around with my damn jeep
I've had a shop align mine as well when I first got the Jeep. But once I realized that you can only adjust toe, I felt like I wasted money. If people want to have a shop do it, that's fine. I would have liked to know only toe was adjustable before I had mine aligned. Thought I would pass along my findings incase it would help someone.
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Re: Replaced tie rod end and steering stabilzer

I can turn my tie rods with my hand fairly easily and turn my steering wheel about an 1/8th of a turn either way without effecting the direction lol. I'm pretty sure I need new tie rods as well, where did you source them from? I'm thinking of having it done with my springs and shocks.
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:41 AM
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Re: Replaced tie rod end and steering stabilzer

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I can turn my tie rods with my hand fairly easily and turn my steering wheel about an 1/8th of a turn either way without effecting the direction lol. I'm pretty sure I need new tie rods as well, where did you source them from? I'm thinking of having it done with my springs and shocks.
Yikes that sounds as bad as they got on my old ZJ! For my WJ I got all of my parts from Rockauto.com, Moog brand for the tie rod ends and a monroe stabilizer. I paid just under $150 shipped. Very easy to do on your own if that's your plan, its kinda scary to hold a new one and an old one and see how much the old one wobbles!
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Re: Replaced tie rod end and steering stabilzer

good write up and pics.

anyone have a how to do on alignment on there WJ?
i know u say its easy but its new to me.
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Re: Replaced tie rod end and steering stabilzer

Death Wobble can be exciting. One second you're just driving along, the next you're out of control.
One of the best articles I have seen about the DW is http://www.happytrails4wd.com/page/death-wobble
It was written primarily for Wranglers, but the same applies to other rigs with similar steering and suspensions.
They have some points that I have not seen anywhere else, so you might find it a good read. The videos they suggest on alignments are really helpful too.
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What exactly causes DW? The extra play when turning the steering wheel?

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I believe it's caused by excess play overall in the front end, bad tie rod ends, steering stabilizer, ball joints, bad alignment, steerin gear, etc. It's not a fun experience.
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