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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

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If you can do the diffs yourself, for sure you can do the TC as well. I have the 247 TC and am using Mobil 424 Fluid in them.
For the transmission, there is no gasket, only a beat of RTV will seal it off. There are 2 filters in there, the large flat oval shaped primary filter and the round spin-on cooler return filter.
Diff is easy as hell though, get a large oil pan underneath it, crack it a bit, drain it, clean the cover, RTV and re-install, no biggy right?

The transfer case seems so foreign to me, and I'd need a jackstands and a floorjack to work on it (i think?). Let me know how exactly you're supposed to service it. The only reason I'm stressed about my tranny is because the downshift from 2nd to 1st when slowing down has gotten slightly rough, and If I'm gonna service it, the transfer case might as well get some attention too!

Also, does anyone recommend getting a stiffer/stronger steering stabilizer? Would that give me a tighter steering wheel? I really hate how mine has play in it, and the stock one looks beat to crap.
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

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Diff is easy as hell though, get a large oil pan underneath it, crack it a bit, drain it, clean the cover, RTV and re-install, no biggy right?

The transfer case seems so foreign to me, and I'd need a jackstands and a floorjack to work on it (i think?). Let me know how exactly you're supposed to service it. The only reason I'm stressed about my tranny is because the downshift from 2nd to 1st when slowing down has gotten slightly rough, and If I'm gonna service it, the transfer case might as well get some attention too!

Also, does anyone recommend getting a stiffer/stronger steering stabilizer? Would that give me a tighter steering wheel? I really hate how mine has play in it, and the stock one looks beat to crap.

i am assuring you have the 247 TC and not select-track.

the front diff is simple to get to on the WJ the rear is a bitt harder since the top bolt is hard to get to and have to rasie the jeep via teh body to get it off or just use a hand pump. also might need limited slip additive as well deepening on your diffs, have to get it form the dealer and come in 4oz bottles need one for the rear and front but the front only takes 2.5oz. 75W-140 synthetic diff fluid will be good for your jeep and i belive its a bit under 4 quarts is needed

the TC has 2 screws a fill and drain. open the fill first and then the drain one. all the oil will come out and go into a oil pan. if oyu have a 247 TC get the fluid form a dealer.

for the steering, since you have a V8 try changing the fluid out first. teh fuild is dealer own also and is called MS5931, if they try to give you atf+4 dont take it.

http://wjjeeps.com/service/maintenance_wj.htm look hear for what type of fluid to get
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

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i am assuring you have the 247 TC and not select-track.

the front diff is simple to get to on the WJ the rear is a bitt harder since the top bolt is hard to get to and have to rasie the jeep via teh body to get it off or just use a hand pump. also might need limited slip additive as well deepening on your diffs, have to get it form the dealer and come in 4oz bottles need one for the rear and front but the front only takes 2.5oz. 75W-140 synthetic diff fluid will be good for your jeep and i belive its a bit under 4 quarts is needed

the TC has 2 screws a fill and drain. open the fill first and then the drain one. all the oil will come out and go into a oil pan. if oyu have a 247 TC get the fluid form a dealer.

for the steering, since you have a V8 try changing the fluid out first. teh fuild is dealer own also and is called MS5931, if they try to give you atf+4 dont take it.

http://wjjeeps.com/service/maintenance_wj.htm look hear for what type of fluid to get

Sweet, thanks!

As far as the steering goes, how do I go about changing the fluid in the steering system?

I'm gonna go pickup parts on thursday, i'll get my hands on a fluid pump (to fill the diffs/transfer case) and I'll visit the dealership for the other fluids + parts.

thanks a lot guys for the help so far, saving me $$$!
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

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Sweet, thanks!

As far as the steering goes, how do I go about changing the fluid in the steering system?

I'm gonna go pickup parts on thursday, i'll get my hands on a fluid pump (to fill the diffs/transfer case) and I'll visit the dealership for the other fluids + parts.

thanks a lot guys for the help so far, saving me $$$!
theirs hoses on the PS pump that are in and out's
can just remove the rubber return line to a pan and add fluid till you see red fresh fluid come out, turning the wheel left to right helps get the fluid moving so if you have a freind that can help do it with him/her. 1 bottle will do but since its special fluid if you can get an extra for just in case is a good thing

if you get a hand pump try not to mix fluids some will buy one for removing and one for adding and for different fluids. but you only need removing the rear diff fluid and adding to the rear did. can add fluid to the front diff with the nozzle on the bottle. for the TC you have enough room that you dont need a pump. when adding the diff fluid add the limited slip additive first.

you will save some money doing it yourself and you will have the right fluids, but when i went 2 years ago to the dealer for a few things was $70
- 2 quarts of PS fluid
- 4 pints of TC fluid
- 2 oz of limited slip additive
and a few other little items lol


best price i found on 74-140W was $15.99 with free shipping http://www.americanmuscle.com/royalp...0-gearoil.html
came in less then a week and only need 4 of these
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

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theirs hoses on the PS pump that are in and out's
can just remove the rubber return line to a pan and add fluid till you see red fresh fluid come out, turning the wheel left to right helps get the fluid moving so if you have a freind that can help do it with him/her. 1 bottle will do but since its special fluid if you can get an extra for just in case is a good thing

if you get a hand pump try not to mix fluids some will buy one for removing and one for adding and for different fluids. but you only need removing the rear diff fluid and adding to the rear did. can add fluid to the front diff with the nozzle on the bottle. for the TC you have enough room that you dont need a pump. when adding the diff fluid add the limited slip additive first.

you will save some money doing it yourself and you will have the right fluids, but when i went 2 years ago to the dealer for a few things was $70
- 2 quarts of PS fluid
- 4 pints of TC fluid
- 2 oz of limited slip additive
and a few other little items lol


best price i found on 74-140W was $15.99 with free shipping http://www.americanmuscle.com/royalp...0-gearoil.html
came in less then a week and only need 4 of these

Thank you!

Dumb question(s),

I know my WJ is Teves brake calipers and I need teves brake pads, but is there any difference in Rotors? ie will a rotor labeled as a rotor for a 2004 WJ with Akebono calipers work with a 2001 that has Teves calipers?


Also, in my 2001 the front and rear are both Teves, is there a difference in the front or rear? (The ebay store doesn't have a Teves front rotor + pad package, so can I just order 2 rear Rotor and pad packages)?

Thanks!
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

Double You Tee Eff?

What do you know,

My rears look like this,



And my fronts do not have this long wire, they have square-ish clips

... so I am led to believe I have Akebono fronts, agree/disagree anyone?
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

rotors will be the same if it a Teves or Akebono caliper just their is a differences between front and back.

the Teves and Akebono caliper do look different but if you cant tell by looking at them. in the back of the Akebono caliper you will see Akebono, so get a mirror or crawl on you back and look will be the best thing to do. also the Teves are back and the Akebono caliper are silver but with dirt they look black.
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rotors will be the same if it a Teves or Akebono caliper just their is a differences between front and back.

the Teves and Akebono caliper do look different but if you cant tell by looking at them. in the back of the Akebono caliper you will see Akebono, so get a mirror or crawl on you back and look will be the best thing to do. also the Teves are back and the Akebono caliper are silver but with dirt they look black.
Thank you for the heads up! I crawled under there and did a lil cleaning and the front ones are definitely Akebono, its written in weirdass block writing lol.
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

If you have a thick wire anti-rattle clip to the outside of the caliper in the front, you have Teves. If they look like the pic above, you have Akebono.
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Thank you for the heads up! I crawled under there and did a lil cleaning and the front ones are definitely Akebono, its written in weirdass block writing lol.
yea that dose the trick to find out, well now you know what to get.

good luck on all your to do list and if you need help or more info just post.

a head up if your going to do the TC yourself and have a 247 you will need a 10mm hex bit to open the fill and drain hole.
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

just a head up,

i changed my gear oil today and doing the front with a pump was ok but the rear was really hard. i wasted allot of time. if your going to go it just take the covers off it will go allot faster and come out better.

just on the rear need to jack it up since their is a bolt on the top that needs to come off. or just get you freind at the shop to do it
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Re: WJ brakejob And Transmission Service

Thanks for all the help guys!


I got my new pads and rotors in and got my mechanic to install the front and rears. The rear brake pads were completely gone (should've taken a pic, there was nothing left!) and the rotors were TOAST!. My front rotors were absolute garbage but the pads were ok. Replaced all the pads and all the rotors and the WJ is completely noise free. Can't believe so much noise was such a cheap fix
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