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Re: WJ base spaekers upgrade...

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no problem man...good luck!
After so much anticipation, and reading a good deal of reviews I ordered two Boston Acoustics, SC95 and SC65, to attach to my Pioneer DEH-P5200HD head unit without any amp.

I wanted to get Pioneer A-1684R (6.5") and A-6964R (6x9"), but I changed my mind at the last minute and ordered the Boston’s speakers.

According to reviews Boston has a better quality sound, and what I found about them was this:

S-Series: For Factory Stock Radios (Cheap Q.)
SE-Series: Aftermarket Radios (Moderate Q.)
SC-Series: Aftermarket Radio or Basic Amps (Better Q.)
SR-Series: Good with Amp (Best Q.)

I wanted to get the SE series, because they are very close to my HU output and cheaper, but the problem was their depth. SC's are much narrower, and SC65 screws are 6 3/4" which should align nicely on Jeep without any drill.

I'll update this thread when they arrive, and post about sound quality and the DIY installation.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:42 PM
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SC95 vs. Factory!

This evening I received my SC95 6x9 speakers. I could only finish installing the passenger side, and I managed to break a door panel pin! I need to buy some from eBay or something in case of the other doors

Since I am commenting on sound quality here, I should mention that I am not an audiophile. However I enjoy a nice quality speaker. For home, I've had Paradigm Mini Monitors, Studio 20s and currently I have Signature S1s. I have a Marantz amp that has powered these during their time.

Cons:
Compared to factory speaker, SC95 has way less bass, but I never liked the factory speaker anyway; even though I have upgraded the HU, factory speakers still were distorted all the time especially in the low range. SC95 also has notably less volume than the factory. I don't know maybe factory has more sensitivity, and SC95 is only at 92db. I think you need to have an amp for this specific speaker, and I probably would get better results with Boston Acoustic's new SE series which are designed for aftermarket HUs. SC95 is a good speaker, and I am sure I will enjoy it for a long time, but it is not very special, at least not with aftermarket HU.

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The good news is that SC95 is very clear; highs are very good and mids are fine, the bass is alright. Although base is not heavy, it is much more pleasant than factory's. The size is very ideal, and I did not even take the door panel completely off; I just had to slide the speaker into the slot. Although Jeep has a grill itself, I even had enough rooms to install the Grill and Grill Panel. They also come with a sealing tape, so you do not require Caulking Cords. The built quality is also very good.

I'll receive my SC65 speakers on Thursday. I will give a full report next time when I installed all of them. Hopefully I won't break any more of those nasty door panel pins.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:08 AM
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Re: WJ base spaekers upgrade...

Here is the best place to order the door panel retainers I have found: https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Pr...ode=PAS9380-50
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Here is the best place to order the door panel retainers I have found: https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Pr...ode=PAS9380-50
Thanks for that site. Last year when I put in the driver's side door lock,I picked some up from the dealership and cursed the whole way out the door.
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Here is the best place to order the door panel retainers I have found: https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Pr...ode=PAS9380-50
Hi Stephen,

Nice price for a 50 pack. I broke another one today. I need to get this pack. Temporary I exchanged the broken ones with one of the bottom ones. They were 4 on bottom, but it works with 3 as well.

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Upgrade Details and Info...

I finally had a chance to install everything. Rear door speakers were a hassle to install, because the new 6.5” speakers are smaller than the actual opening place in the door, so you cannot just drill the screws in the door. I ended up going to BestBuy and buying a Metra Speaker Adapter for Jeep. Although the outer screws were in line with Jeep’s door, the inner screws did not match the speakers’ mounting holes! I ended up drilling the ABS plastic of the Metra to make some new mounting holes.

Okay here is the summary of what I had:

1- Pioneer DEH-P5100HD Head Unit
2- Factory Speakers (6x9 fronts, 6 ¾” backs, front tweeters)
3- No Factory or Aftermarket Amp

What I got:

1- Boston Acoustic SC95 6x9” for fronts
2- Boston Acoustic SC65 6 ½” for rears
3- Metra Speaker Adapter model #82-6600
4- Still no amp…

Total Upgrade Cost: About $210 + 2 days DYI

Fronts installation was a breeze compared to the backs. The new 6x9” speakers matched the exact size of the factory ones, and were easily mounted in place. The speaker’s grill—although about 1” deep—installed over the speaker without any problems, and it won’t contact the door grill or anything. Something I had to bypass on rear speakers’ install.

As said, rear speakers’ installation was much harder. The openings for the factory speaker were much larger than the new speaker itself, so there was no option to drill anything into the door and hold the speaker. In Crutchfield web sites, these speakers are marked as compatible to 6 ¾” mounts, but in reality they won't fit. Metra 82-6600 came to rescue but at a price. Apart from the price, you also need to drill interior holes in order to attach your speaker to the mounting plastic, and then you can just attach that plastic to the door with its already perfect outer mounting holes. Because Metra is about half an inch thick itself, you cannot install the speaker’s grill over it. It will be too thick for the rear door. I ended up not installing the grill mount and shield for rear speakers. It is not that big of a deal since the door has a grill of its own.

Sound Quality:

Out of the box with normal settings, bass was way less than factory speakers’. I played with my head unit’s settings a bit, and I finally managed to get what I wanted. To be honest, now I think the bass is very good for these speakers without an amp being used. My favorite settings on P5200HD are:

• Preset Equalizer: Vocal (powerful, neutral, vocal, custom…)
• Loudness: Medium (off, low, med, high)
• Bass booster: 0 (0, 1, 2, 3, 4)
• Sound Retriever: 1 (off, 1, 2)

It gives nice highs, clear mids and tight bass without the booming sound. I was able to achieve other accepting settings with Neutral on P-EQ, Low Loudness, and Bass Booster to +2 and no Sound Retriever. It is a personal taste, but I like the bass from the fronts very much in these settings.

My rear SC65 speakers do not have the volume/power of the fronts’. They are kind of dull sounded. I first thought it is because my Jeep attaches the tweeter to the front speakers in parallel and makes them 2ohm instead of 4ohm, but after I disconnected the tweeters, I still ended up with the same dull sound on the back. I think 6.5” speakers are not as good as 6x9” speakers. It should not depend on the sensitivity since they only differ with each other in 1db. Maybe my HU is damaged or something that cannot power the rears that well, but that is hard to examine.

Overall, SC95 and SC65 are really nice speakers and changed the dynamics of the sound in my vehicle exponentially. They are not even remotely near factory base speakers’ built quality and sound, and they are far more superior. The upgrade is worth the price and hassles.

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Re: WJ base spaekers upgrade...

is that someone over there ho has tested this one to replace the oem tweeter in dash..

http://www.powerbassusa.com/s-275ch-chrysler-jeep-oem
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