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Old 01-29-2013, 09:17 AM
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Re: NEED HELP...Death Wobble...Replaced almost everything and still occurs

I am not trying to get you to spend more money but I agree with Cheapjeep. I always looked at it as , I am taking it apart once , Might as well change anything that looks bad or is worn ( or is known to go bad) Rather then having to take it apart twice. If you have the money and the time.

i took mine to get it inspected once and had a Tie rod end going bad . so , Not Remembering when the others were installed . I replaced all of them. Plus this gave ,me a trail set.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:31 PM
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Re: NEED HELP...Death Wobble...Replaced almost everything and still occurs

I really appreciate the input guys. Do i need to buy new control arms or can i swap out the bushings?
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I always look at the cost/ time factor. How much are the bushing, how easy are they going to be to replace compared to the cost of new ones with bushings installed

My wife's commander for example. It cost me $20 more dollars to replace the whole arm then what it was just to buy the bushings.
Also how much would new bolts cost compared to trying to beat the old ones out.
I ended up buying all new bolts because hers were seized in the bushings.


We found this also with arms on my LJ. It was easier and less stressful( on me and the jeep) just to buy new bolts.


I have never done bushings on a Wj so I cant say how hard it will be. Cheapjeep or the others may be able to give you a better Idea.
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Re: NEED HELP...Death Wobble...Replaced almost everything and still occurs

The front upper arm rear bushings are pressed in the arms, but the front bushings are pressed in the axle itself. The left lug (seen from drivers position), is quite strong, but the right lug is fragile and deforms easily when pressing the bushing out. There is a special tool which fits inside the hollow lug, which prevents it from deforming.
If you could get the arms with bushings for a good price, i would go that route.
Just changed the rear upper A-arm bushings on my jeep, but they are already shot after less then 1000 Km driving (Omix-Ada). Installed the new ones exactly the same way the old ones where installed, but i already didn't like the quality too much when installing, just too fragile for the job it has to perform.
Was thinking in buying a new A-arm with the bushings, for USD 110 a good option, but shipping would run into USD 240 and then 60% of tax over the USD 350 total. Decided to try bushings from Dorman first for USD 8 a piece.
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Re: NEED HELP...Death Wobble...Replaced almost everything and still occurs

ok so thanks to Amazon.com, i got 2 Moog lower control arms for$80...for some reason I am having difficulty finding upper control arms. are they the same part or different?
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They should be a different number. On good ole eBay , they are different.

Check on morris off road. They should have a break down of front end parts and their numbers
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Re: NEED HELP...Death Wobble...Replaced almost everything and still occurs

The WJ vehicles had a death wobble at 55mph that was usually caused by a faulty drag link tie rod end at the steering box pitman arm. This tie rod end feels tight when checking for play at the tires but if you try to compress the tie rod end with a set of channel locks, a small amount of slack can be felt.
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ok so thanks to Amazon.com, i got 2 Moog lower control arms for$80...for some reason I am having difficulty finding upper control arms. are they the same part or different?
I wouldn't worry about the upper arms because they don't come with the axle side bushings anyway. Just get the bushings that press into the upper mounts on the axle and I think you'll be fine.
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The WJ vehicles had a death wobble at 55mph that was usually caused by a faulty drag link tie rod end at the steering box pitman arm. This tie rod end feels tight when checking for play at the tires but if you try to compress the tie rod end with a set of channel locks, a small amount of slack can be felt.
I'm pretty sure he replaced all the ends already.
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Re: NEED HELP...Death Wobble...Replaced almost everything and still occurs

Morris 4x4 has everything! They had the upper control arms I needed. I have not rebuilt the front end yet as I just finished buying the last of the parts yesterday. Here is my list of parts that will be going into this project:

Moog: wheel hubs, tie rod ends, tie rod, drag link, lower control arms
Tough One/CSP: front axle shafts
Alloy USA: Ball joints
Crown: upper control arms and bushings

i think i safely covered all parts that could go bad. did i miss any?
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Looks like you got about everything. Maybe a can of pb blaster , lol

Please keep us informed !
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Re: NEED HELP...Death Wobble...Replaced almost everything and still occurs

Got my jeep back from the mechanic.....NO MORE DEATH WOBBLE! After I had the above list of parts replaced (some necessary, some precautionary) it drives smooth as can be. I kept the old parts to examine the damage/wear...The ball joints were bad and on their way out. The TREs were worn and had play. The control arm bushings were cracked and dried out. Axle Shafts didn't look bad but no big deal. Wheel hubs/bearings weren't bad either. Now when I back up the axle doesn't shift forward anymore causing the tires to rub on the bumper. I do notice a little bit of lag/unresponsiveness in the steering which I will have checked out again. Any ideas?
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