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Re: Oil consumption

eh, there is not really anywhere where to 2 commingle. Oil and coolant, sure, trans fluid and coolant, sure as coolers in the radiator leak occationally. But, they dont have anywhere separated by a seal that would allow the fluids to mix. Doubt this is your problem.

It was probably just an improper fill the first time around on the trans.
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Re: Oil consumption

When the jeep came back from the tranny job, i saw that it was low on the dipstick with the tranny hot. I informed them about it and added 1 Ltr to get it close to the full mark. Just wondering if the Renaultmatic DIII synthetic fluid they have used can have anything to do with the tranny problem........................ It was shifting normally at least
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Old 08-26-2011, 09:08 AM
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Re: Oil consumption

By DIII do you mean Dexron III? If so that is a GM spec fluid, not the Chrysler. Chryslers can be pretty picky about fluids, and the only thing recommended to use is a fluid that meets their ATF+4 spec.
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Re: Oil consumption

Any update on this buddy? Also I'm sure you know but just a reminder that you have the tranny in neutral not park to check the level. It will give you a whole different reading in park.
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Re: Oil consumption

From my experience, blue smoke on accel is rings, on decel is valve seals...
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Re: Oil consumption

Hi dave, no news yet from the tranny shop.
Regarding the fluid level check, on wjjeeps.com they say to check it in Park.


MODEL 45RFE or 545RFE: (used with V8 engines only)
1. Transmission fluid must be at normal operating temperature for accurate fluid level check. Drive vehicle if necessary to bring fluid temperature up to normal hot operating temperature of 82C (180F). The torque converter fills in both the P (PARK) and N (NEUTRAL) positions.
2. The engine should be running at idle speed for at least one minute, with the vehicle on level ground.
3. Apply parking brakes.
4. Place the selector lever in P (PARK) to be sure that the fluid level check is accurate.
5. Clean top of filler tube and dipstick to keep dirt from entering tube.
6. Remove dipstick and check fluid level as follows:
(a) Correct acceptable level is in crosshatch area or area between "COLD" and "HOT".
(b) Correct maximum level is to "HOT" arrow mark.
(c) Incorrect level is at or below "COLD" line. The fluid level will be approximately at the upper COLD hole of the dipstick at 70 F fluid temperature. (d) If fluid is low, add only enough Mopar ATF +4 Automatic Transmission fluid to restore correct level. Do not overfill.

The fluid used is a Dexron III synthetic, which use i also questioned to the shop and they told me that they used it on other 5-45 RFE's before.
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Re: Oil consumption

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Hi dave, no news yet from the tranny shop.
Regarding the fluid level check, on wjjeeps.com they say to check it in Park.


MODEL 45RFE or 545RFE: (used with V8 engines only)
1. Transmission fluid must be at normal operating temperature for accurate fluid level check. Drive vehicle if necessary to bring fluid temperature up to normal hot operating temperature of 82C (180F). The torque converter fills in both the P (PARK) and N (NEUTRAL) positions.
2. The engine should be running at idle speed for at least one minute, with the vehicle on level ground.
3. Apply parking brakes.
4. Place the selector lever in P (PARK) to be sure that the fluid level check is accurate.
5. Clean top of filler tube and dipstick to keep dirt from entering tube.
6. Remove dipstick and check fluid level as follows:
(a) Correct acceptable level is in crosshatch area or area between "COLD" and "HOT".
(b) Correct maximum level is to "HOT" arrow mark.
(c) Incorrect level is at or below "COLD" line. The fluid level will be approximately at the upper COLD hole of the dipstick at 70 F fluid temperature. (d) If fluid is low, add only enough Mopar ATF +4 Automatic Transmission fluid to restore correct level. Do not overfill.


The fluid used is a Dexron III sysnthetic, which use i also questioned to the shop and they told me that they used it on other 5-45 RFE's before.
This is my dipstick bud.I remember this cause I thought its dangerous to check the level while the Jeep runs over you We need to get to the bottom of this though because it's a whole different reading in park. Me, I'm sticking with the dipstick cause I've had no problems with fluid changes that way.

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I tend to believe things carved in steel...
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Checking Google i also found this same text on the dipstick with other 5-45RFE. There are some people who are using this procedure on the dipstick, most of them though use the procedure from the owners manual.The owners manual is stating to check the level in Park.
The suggestion was made that this dipstick is also used on other trannies, but sounds a bit misleading..........................
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Thanks everybody for the help sofar. But.......... my 5 weeks ago rebuild tranny just gave up on me again with the same problem, 3rd gear clutch slipping..............
Jeep is back to the office and lets see what is wrong this time.
I think its time to dump it...................................

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Thanks, but i see that your Jeep is also loving a ride on a towtruck................
Is this just Jeep behaviour
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Checking Google i also found this same text on the dipstick with other 5-45RFE. There are some people who are using this procedure on the dipstick, most of them though use the procedure from the owners manual.The owners manual is stating to check the level in Park.
The suggestion was made that this dipstick is also used on other trannies, but sounds a bit misleading..........................
The point I'm getting at here is when I did my shift kit and filter when in park it read way low by a quart or so and I'm thinking how could I be this far off(Then again with me anythings possible)but once I read the stick and put it in neutral it was right where it should be.So Frank I'm thinking if you read the stick in park,threw another qt or so in there the tranny was over full. This led to the foaming and over full condition they found at the shop.This seems like a serious problem cause over full automatics don't last long.Maybe some of you guys could try this for yourself and see if you get the the same results as me so Frank would know for sure.
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