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Old 08-25-2011, 11:06 AM
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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

It looks more like a Grand Wagonette.
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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

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It looks more like a Grand Wagonette.

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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

More like the new 2013 Family Truckster.

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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

I think I'm gonna hold off for the new Cherovan...

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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

I know we're a couple years off...but does anyone (Milous?) know if the GW is currently planned to be same length as the Durango...or if it will be a bit longer? (more interior room?)
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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

I don't think the current platform can handle much more length. The Durango barely fits as is. It'll probably be the same size.
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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

Thanks, Marlon.

I'll probably be deciding this fall then between a '14 Durango and a '13/'14 GMC Acadia. The Acadia has more room / better interior space...the Durango with the new transmission and interior electronics will be better at pretty much everything else.

If we find out the Wagoneer will have more room than the Durango, I would be willing to wait it out another year for that...
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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

Overall I think this will be a hard vehicle for Jeep to pull off and sell at volume. If they make it too small with a useless third row there won't a convincing reason to buy it over the GC. If they make it big enough to have a useful third row the vehicle will be very heavy and use a lot of fuel (like the mercedes GL...the only SUV with a useful third row and off road capabilities). They have to maintain the off road capabilities and ground clearance so it will not have as much interior/cargo space as the lambda vehicles (even if they lengthen it enough for a useful third row).

The current Durango has a small third row, and it does not have true off road capabilities. If both of these shortcomings are overcome in the Jeep, the pentastar engine will probably be inadequate requiring the Hemi or CRD.

Most people who are looking for three row people movers are not looking for off road capabilities, nor are they willing to pay the monetary and packaging (space) costs; hence the success of the GM lambda vehicles. Chrysler would be better off competing in that class than going after a niche market with the Grand Wagoneer....maybe that is why we hear very little about a GW.
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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

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Overall I think this will be a hard vehicle for Jeep to pull off and sell at volume. ....Most people who are looking for three row people movers are not looking for off road capabilities, nor are they willing to pay the monetary and packaging (space) costs; hence the success of the GM lambda vehicles. Chrysler would be better off competing in that class than going after a niche market with the Grand Wagoneer....maybe that is why we hear very little about a GW.
I agree and disagree.

I think in an ideal world, yes, the Dodge / Chrysler / Jeep line-up would look something like this for the "large people and stuff" movers:

* Dodge: Caravan Minivan. ("Everyman's peoplemover"). No crossover.
* Chrysler: Large Luxury Crossover SUV. (Bigger version of Durango...think Aspen but in a crossover package, not truck based.). No mini vans.
* Jeep: None

On the one hand, I agree that most people looking for 3 row crossovers are not looking to go off-road, so a Jeep Wagoneer doesn't make much sense when looked at in that light. These consumers are looking for as close to mini-van utility as they can get, in a package that is not a mini-van.

On the other hand, the Jeep brand has much more sales cachet for "sport utility" vehicles.

So, in my opinion if Jeep is willing to create a Wagoneer that pays only "lip service" to off-roading capability (or even dare I say none), and concentrates on "people and stuff utility" then I think that would be a bigger seller than packaging the vehicle as a Chrysler. While such a vehicle might be Jeep in name only, I think it's what consumers want. The risk to doing this is potentially harming the Jeep brand with a vehicle that is not truly "Jeep like". (Not off-road worthy).

If the Wagoneer ends up being essentially the same size as a Durago...basically a Durango in Jeep skin with some off-roading capability, then while I think it would sell more than the Durango...I don't think it would be a sales hit.
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Re: 2013 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

the Durango is currently the only 3 row SUV that can tow more than 5000 pounds for under $60,000 dollars, unless you want to go Tahoe or bigger. I don't. There is your market
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