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the Grand Wagoneer will be a Durango with jeep sheetmetal and new suspension, 7 passenger, 5.7 hemi and a FEW suprises!
 
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I think the wood would work if it was done tastefully on the right color like instead of the chrome side molding put some wood there and on the tailgate chrome piece but not the front grill.
 
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I don't care who bought them... It's Wak on the PT as well the car itself. Only old people bought it for its "innovative" station wagon with good gas mileage appeal.

The only youth with these are those who recieved them as hand-me-downs.
 
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Good news is, most youth can't afford to buy brand new cars, so who cares? Going after demographics that can't afford to buy your vehicles is one of the dumbest moves a company can make.

That said, I don't want wood trim on the sides either. But if they made a special "Heritage Edition" or something like that, I wouldn't be opposed to it, and I think it'd make a good marketing tool. They just need to make sure to make it hugely obvious that it's not ONLY available like that. Like, maybe in whatever marketing it's used in, always make sure a normal ones is next to the woody one.
 
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I really wish there was some more info about the Grand Wgaoneer. I need third row seating , bit don't want the Durango cause I want 4WD nor AWD. Really don't want the Explorer either, although the Sport is somewhat interesting. Please ChryCo.....can I get some updates here?
 
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I really wish there was some more info about the Grand Wgaoneer. I need third row seating , bit don't want the Durango cause I want 4WD nor AWD. Really don't want the Explorer either, although the Sport is somewhat interesting. Please ChryCo.....can I get some updates here?
Disappointing there is not any news on this. You would think by now we would have spy photos, updated renderings, and a release date. Doesn't look like the Grand Wagoneer will be coming any time soon.
 
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There was. The Ford Excursion. Most awesome yet HUGE. Voted worst constructed vehicle ever due to its size.

I guess there just isn't an American market for diesels for large families... I haven't seen/paid attention to the German Diesel SUVs and their pricing is outrageous.

AND

EPA estimated mpg on the 2012 GL350 bluetec is
17/city 21/highway........

Awful... Not worth 60K+

And that's dry weight. If you actually used it as a DD for the kids etc that would drop...
 
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A lot of people with the GL diesels get much higher fuel economy than that. But frankly, at that price point it's unlikely that fuel consumption is your main concern.

I think part of the problem is that diesls aren't really cost effective. They're great, but the fuel is expensive in the US, they use a LOT of oil, and they cost more to purchase at first. Families looking for fuel efficient 3 rows now are buying crossovers like Explorer, CX-9, Highlander, etc. The market for a true 3 row SUV is limited, and largely piggybacks off the market for fullsize trucks.

The reality is, the people wanting economical 3 row CUVs are just buying smaller engined vehicles that are lighter and less capable. People who want more functionality have to buy a truck based SUV. People who want both are small in number and not willing to pay the money for such a vehicle.

I fully expect a Wagoneer Diesel with decent equipment to be mid 40s. That's a price point that will put it out of the range of most people looking for fuel efficient 3 rows.
 
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I fully expect a Wagoneer Diesel with decent equipment to be mid 40s. That's a price point that will put it out of the range of most people looking for fuel efficient 3 rows.
and that would make it the least expensive, and one of the most fuel efficient three row vehicles in the US market. Also the only one that would be able to tow. Think about it, currently you cannot have three rows, decent fuel economy, and towing in a vehicle sub-$50k.

Diesel ($3.89) in my area is still $.10 cheaper than ethanol-free premium ($3.99), which is what I put in my current vehicle.
 
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