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Old 09-13-2012, 01:50 AM
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Re: Any photos or updates on this subject?

This new Jeep is going to fully replace the Durango (which will go RIP) so actually they could do it very fast, just replacing the front clip, rear lights and interior dash. I would think it would sit higher than the current Durango as it is not very off road oriented and a Jeep has to be off road capable.
Dodge would be more like a "sporty" brand; I read they are even speculating on desapearing the Grand Caravan from the lineup and just keep the minivan format on the Chrysler brand.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:00 PM
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This new Jeep is going to fully replace the Durango (which will go RIP) so actually they could do it very fast, just replacing the front clip, rear lights and interior dash. I would think it would sit higher than the current Durango as it is not very off road oriented and a Jeep has to be off road capable.
Dodge would be more like a "sporty" brand; I read they are even speculating on disappearing the Grand Caravan from the lineup and just keep the minivan format on the Chrysler brand.
Im sure they will make it off-road worthy as the architecture which also underpins the GC is built for off-road. It may even come with the air-suspension to further increase height, departure, break-over, and approach angles.

The news about the Grand Caravan is old. The Caravan will stay as the sole minivan and Chrysler will be getting an upscale crossover based on the same platform (Similar to what the Pacifica and Mercedes R-class was).
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Re: Any photos or updates on this subject?

I just seriously hope we get some info about it at the auto show, as Sergio said we would. 2013 was supposed be a vehicle shopping year for me, and I was really was hoping for a 3-row vehicle, but the towing capability and diesel gas mileage of the GC is VERY tempting. If I found out that the GW was coming with a diesel option for $55,000 or lower, it's a no-brainer for me to wait.
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(Similar to what the Pacifica and Mercedes R-class was).
Despite their similar looks, they were virtually 100% different. The R-Class is built on the ML platform (RWD based), whereas the Pacifica was built on the minivan platform (Great vehicle, my mother had one and loved it. She was upset that she had to get rid of it, despite the fact that her replacement was a very nice Lincoln MKX).

I personally think Chrysler needs a new Pacifica built on the Journey platform. Slightly larger, more luxurious, and the option of a better engine than the 3.6L and it would sell very well. Most families don't want a excessively large, heavy, and offroad capable SUV. They want something more like the new Explorer, a reasonably large, well packaged, decent fuel economy bearing crossover.

IMO, they should keep the Durango as the budget 3 row, and have it max at out the R/T level, but add the cooled seats to the R/T. Then have the Grand Wagoneer pick up from there, but with more of a focus on being an offroader (essentially just make it a bigger Grand Cherokee).
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Despite their similar looks, they were virtually 100% different. The R-Class is built on the ML platform (RWD based), whereas the Pacifica was built on the minivan platform (Great vehicle, my mother had one and loved it. She was upset that she had to get rid of it, despite the fact that her replacement was a very nice Lincoln MKX).

I personally think Chrysler needs a new Pacifica built on the Journey platform. Slightly larger, more luxurious, and the option of a better engine than the 3.6L and it would sell very well. Most families don't want a excessively large, heavy, and offroad capable SUV. They want something more like the new Explorer, a reasonably large, well packaged, decent fuel economy bearing crossover.

IMO, they should keep the Durango as the budget 3 row, and have it max at out the R/T level, but add the cooled seats to the R/T. Then have the Grand Wagoneer pick up from there, but with more of a focus on being an offroader (essentially just make it a bigger Grand Cherokee).
I know that the Pacifica and R-Class are on 2 different platforms, I was just saying that the new crossover is supposed to ride on the next generation LX platform that will underpin the minivan as well.

I somewhat agree with you on the Durango/Grand Wagoneer opinion. They will have to do some serious marketing to differentiate the two. Maybe they will test the waters for a year or two like reports have said that the Durango will not die but be built along side the GW. Durango has to be targeted against the Explorer, Pathfinder, Pilot, Traverse, etc. GW has to be targeted against, includes both luxury and off-road worthy vehicles: Infiniti JX, Audi Q7, Acura MDX, 4Runner, but most importantly Range Rover.
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I know that the Pacifica and R-Class are on 2 different platforms, I was just saying that the new crossover is supposed to ride on the next generation LX platform that will underpin the minivan as well.

I somewhat agree with you on the Durango/Grand Wagoneer opinion. They will have to do some serious marketing to differentiate the two. Maybe they will test the waters for a year or two like reports have said that the Durango will not die but be built along side the GW. Durango has to be targeted against the Explorer, Pathfinder, Pilot, Traverse, etc. GW has to be targeted against, includes both luxury and off-road worthy vehicles: Infiniti JX, Audi Q7, Acura MDX, 4Runner, but most importantly Range Rover.
The MDX and JX are in no way offroad worthy, lol. Heck, neither is the Q7 really.

But I get what you're saying. The market has changed a LOT since the GW was last on sale. Back then, it truthfully had no competition, there were a handful or Land Rovers but they weren't well built or that nice. There were no luxury trucks, no luxury crossovers, and fuel economy wasn't a care of anyone's.

Nowdays there's stiff competition form the Mercedes GL, The LR4 and Range Rover (the new generation of that looks to be an unbeatable vehicle to be honest), you've got bulletproof Lexus GX460s, luxurious F150 King Ranches, as well as all the crossovers out there that cater to a much larger upper-middle class that doesn't need the offroad capability.

Jeep has their work cut out for them, and can't expect that just by showing up they will be able to win. The GC is a fantastic vehicle to start from, but when you start getting into the price range the GW will likely surge into, "value" becomes less important as quality, service, prestige, style, etc.

I think Jeep needs to rework its branding. They should consider offering something akin to the "Land Rover Experience" packages that LR offers at some tourist spots. They had one of those at the Biltmore Estate in Asheville, it was really awesome and I wished I had known about it to sign up for it.

I do think Jeep will need to make a choice between going upmarket, and continuing to serve the people who want nothing more than cheap, basic jeeps. If they want to stand out against luxury competitors, they've GOT to bring their A game and offer at least most of the same experience. Families spend $60k on a GW aren't going to be as concerned about the fact that they saved $10k over an Audi, as with the service they get, the rentals they get, the cleanliness of the facility, the helpfulness of the people, etc.
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Soooooooo..........................whens Chrysler gonna get off their duff and show/sell this??
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This Jeep are really cool. Hoping for having one...
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