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Old 02-04-2013, 10:41 PM
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Re: Marchionne to probably delay/cancel Grand Wagoneer

I think that delaying the intro of the GW is a mistake. While people may be fleeing from the Tahoes and Expeditions, they're buying up GLs, Q7s, QX56s, Explorers, etc. in droves.

People like these slightly smaller crossovers because of the fact that they're not trucks, and drive smoother. Something that slotted right above the Grand Cherokee in size, price, and quality would do quite well, stealing sales from the people buying the luxury 3 rows - and it'd fill a gap in Chrysler's offerings. Right now you have to get either a Journey (small) or a Durango (polarizing styling), a smart move for them would be to position a GW as a step up from Durango, and make a new Chrysler Pacifica as a step up from Journey.

I have a GMC Acadia as a rental car right now. I hate the engine, it's one of the worst engines for the vehicle ever as it is totally devoid of power down low, but has plenty of power once it revs up (so you'll literally plant your foot to get moving then hit its version of VTEC and smoke your tires, not very luxurious at all). It's a smooth, quiet, and comfortable ride with some very questionable material choices and a decidedly low tech set of features. The leather feels cheap, and the steering wheel rim is too small in diameter.

It's not bad overall, but Explorer is way better IMO. I'm getting 15/21 out of it, with most of my time in it spent cruising highways. It desperately needs ye old 5.3L V8 from the Monte Carlo SS.

Durango Citadel is nice looking, but its styling just doesn't work for me. It's too rounded, and the interior doesn't look very upscale. Mercedes' GL is the clear standout in this class as the best.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:57 AM
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Re: Marchionne to probably delay/cancel Grand Wagoneer

the GW is NOT cancelled....only delayed because of development costs of other platforms
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Re: Marchionne to probably delay/cancel Grand Wagoneer

Yeah, I highly doubt Jeep would be sending out design teams in December if they were planning to cancel it. Jeep team takes a field trip to Wagonmaster; researching next Grand Wagoneer?

Ultimately, I don't think I could wait beyond September 2014. I mean maybe, if they debut an absolutely amazing looking concept at the 2014 NAIAS, and some hints about pricing.

I only have two kids, but the flexibility of the third row is crucial to me. I was actually leaning toward the GC until my in-laws were in town about a month ago, and we had to take two cars everywhere we went.
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Re: Marchionne to probably delay/cancel Grand Wagoneer

Nice find.

Sadly, if I'm reading the proposed product map tea-leaves correctly, we won't see a Grand Wagoneer introduced until Calendar year '15 as a '16 model.

Now, it's possible it could be an early year introduction (similar to the '14 grand cherokees...) but that's what I personally think the earliest we would see it.

I'm the same exact boat as you. I would really prefer to purchase this fall..stretching it to fall '14 would be really pushing it...and into '15 is almost no chance for me unless we hear some more concrete details by '14 NAIAS.

I'm also similar in my needs to you...I also only have 2 kids but need the 3rd row flexibility.
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