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This is great! Thank y'all very much. I see you've had the Trailhawk for some time now. Let us know your experiences. Safe Travels!

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PS: Coincidentally we have a red Cherokee and a Silver-gray Dakota.

that is pretty neat that your colors are reversed from mine.

I replied in the other thread. We travelled over 3,000 miles in May/June towing our TH around the Four Corners area and had a wonderful time. It towed really great and we did not have any issues. The only issue was a operator on my part. LOL The Parking brake was still set when starting to pull but I never take off without my DW watching and double checking.

Putting it into neutral for towing was easy after a few times and sort of got the hang of it.

I have not had any issues with the Cherokee at all. I did have to my windshield repaired recently from a pebble kicked up by a truck in front of me but turned out well and is only a couple of small spots on windshield.

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Re: Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk

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that is pretty neat that your colors are reversed from mine.

I replied in the other thread. We travelled over 3,000 miles in May/June towing our TH around the Four Corners area and had a wonderful time. It towed really great and we did not have any issues. The only issue was a operator on my part. LOL The Parking brake was still set when starting to pull but I never take off without my DW watching and double checking.

Putting it into neutral for towing was easy after a few times and sort of got the hang of it.

I have not had any issues with the Cherokee at all. I did have to my windshield repaired recently from a pebble kicked up by a truck in front of me but turned out well and is only a couple of small spots on windshield.
Thanks again.

I didn't want to remove the inside trim so I decided to run wiring under the car. Hardest part was running wires against firewall. At first I tried to see if I could fit some flex conduit through... but no go. I settled for using wire loom, wrapped with tape just like most of the car harnesses. Once I got doen under I faound I could easily run flex conduit underneath, between underside of floor and skid plate. When I got to rear I used a short piece of loom to run wire into basket-area in rear compartment... to be continued. I'll post pictures of my install soon.
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Re: Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk

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Thanks again.

I didn't want to remove the inside trim so I decided to run wiring under the car. Hardest part was running wires against firewall. At first I tried to see if I could fit some flex conduit through... but no go. I settled for using wire loom, wrapped with tape just like most of the car harnesses. Once I got doen under I faound I could easily run flex conduit underneath, between underside of floor and skid plate. When I got to rear I used a short piece of loom to run wire into basket-area in rear compartment... to be continued. I'll post pictures of my install soon.
Good show. That's the route I've been considering. Looking forward to your pictures.
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Good show. That's the route I've been considering. Looking forward to your pictures.
Without the skid plates, you should definitely use something like flex conduit to protect the wires underneath. I'm not sure what the Limiteds are like under there so you may need to get creative in how you fasten the conduit,

I ran mine inside the driver side rear fender area then across to the right behind the spare tire shroud.

I followed idsoles1066' method of connecting wiring up behind lights. There's not much room there.
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Re: Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk

That is a pretty good idea on the routing. I also look forward to the pictures.
The small amount of room behind the lights is why I ran all my wiring so that I could put the diodes under the basket area. There is not a lot of room or wire to play with for sure.

It is a headache to install but so nice once it is done.
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That is a pretty good idea on the routing. I also look forward to the pictures.
The small amount of room behind the lights is why I ran all my wiring so that I could put the diodes under the basket area. There is not a lot of room or wire to play with for sure.

It is a headache to install but so nice once it is done.

There was really little room to cut/splice the tail and brake/turn wires behind the fender plug. I was hoping there'd be a way to get to the wiring via the basket-space below but no go... unless I removed all the plastic interior trim. So... I opted to follow your lead and spliced in that tiny space.

You did a really neat job... there didn't look like enough room to put in crimp connectors so I soldered wires and covered with shrink tubing. It did not look as neat as yours. Once I complete testing I'll go back in and seal better with black silicone.
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... there didn't look like enough room to put in crimp connectors so I soldered wires and covered with shrink tubing.
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Re: Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk

Wonderful info, thanks to all! A related question, on the BlueOx towing experience...

I've been towing a Jeep Liberty for several years, now want to switch to a Cherokee Trailhawk (yes, I go offroad). BUT the shop that did the Liberty work (base plates, brake system, lights) says I should WAIT, because BlueOx is re-engineering the Cherokee Trailhawk base plate -- this info as of two weeks ago.

Supposedly, the original TH baseplate mounts "wide", which causes the BlueOx Aventa tow bar arms to be spread wide, extended quite a bit even when going straight. (Imagine the full width of Jeep is 100, the Cherokee TH mounts are approx 10 and 90. My Liberty's baseplate connection points are at roughly 30 and 70.) This wide spread limits the ability to turn sharp, because there's not much more arm extension when turning. They've seen damaged tow systems, and Cherokees being dragged, from turns that are not be a problem with other baseplates.

I'm told that BlueOx did not realize that Trailhawk mounting is not the same as other Cherokees. I understand that on TH the baseplates go where the tow hooks are, spread wide, but in different closer positions on non-TH models. My dealer says BlueOx is designing a new baseplate, and then it will require different front-end work to get it installed. So, I'm waiting...

(I'm sticking with BlueOx because I already own the Aventa II tow bar, still working great after 7 years.)

Any feedback on this is appreciated.
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Wonderful info, thanks to all! A related question, on the BlueOx towing experience...

I've been towing a Jeep Liberty for several years, now want to switch to a Cherokee Trailhawk (yes, I go offroad). BUT the shop that did the Liberty work (base plates, brake system, lights) says I should WAIT, because BlueOx is re-engineering the Cherokee Trailhawk base plate -- this info as of two weeks ago.

Supposedly, the original TH baseplate mounts "wide", which causes the BlueOx Aventa tow bar arms to be spread wide, extended quite a bit even when going straight. (Imagine the full width of Jeep is 100, the Cherokee TH mounts are approx 10 and 90. My Liberty's baseplate connection points are at roughly 30 and 70.) This wide spread limits the ability to turn sharp, because there's not much more arm extension when turning. They've seen damaged tow systems, and Cherokees being dragged, from turns that are not be a problem with other baseplates.

I'm told that BlueOx did not realize that Trailhawk mounting is not the same as other Cherokees. I understand that on TH the baseplates go where the tow hooks are, spread wide, but in different closer positions on non-TH models. My dealer says BlueOx is designing a new baseplate, and then it will require different front-end work to get it installed. So, I'm waiting...

(I'm sticking with BlueOx because I already own the Aventa II tow bar, still working great after 7 years.)

Any feedback on this is appreciated.
This width question was brought up to Blue Ox in early January. See my April post on this earlier in this thread ==> Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk

The Facebook page is still up on this subject. Here's the link ==> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Blue Ox said "The tabs are approximately 37in apart, and are within spec of our motorhome mount towbars."

This is not good. What about the people that invested time/effort/money installing these on TH's. If it were me, I'd be checking the turning radius to determine what the limits are. It can't be good for the tow bar and base plates to be dragging a car around. Actually everyone should do this because every towbar has turning limits.

My earlier post in this thread includes the difference between the BO TH and non-TH width measurements ==> Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk
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Re: Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk

My 2015 Jeep Cherokee Limited with Tech Group has transformed into a Toad. I put up an album of the baseplate install here ==> Baseplate Install. Since others already posted pictures of the install process, the theme of these pictures is what's under the skirt.



The wiring of the tail lights is in this album ==> Wiring Tail Lights. The wire path is under chassis rather than through the interior.



The picture sequence is not always chronological.
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Re: Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk

Blue Ox update per my dealer: The solution for TrailHawk is, BUY A DIFFERENT TOW BAR. Rather than mount the baseplate tabs closer together on the Jeep, Blue Ox has created a towbar with longer arms. Cost about $1000.

If starting from scratch, maybe that's OK, though I don't like the tow system to be longer than necessary.

But for those of us who already own a Blue Ox, this so-called solution is really a push to look at Roadmaster and Demco base plates. For instance, Blue Ox tabs are about 37" apart while Demco tabs are abount 33" apart. Adapters are available to connect Blue Ox bar to either of these base plates.

Anyone using Demco or Roadmaster baseplate with Blue Ox?

I'm also wondering about Readybrake to eliminate delicacy of electronic braking system.
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Are there any base plate kits that do not require the removal of the factory tow hooks?
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