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Cherokee 4x4 or FWD?

My lady is in the market for a smaller SUV. Please keep in mind I have a JGC 4x4. We live in the city that does not snow, although roads do get slick when it rains due to the infrequency of rain. Anytime we go out in the desert/mountain, we have my JGC for offroad use.

Should she get a 4x4 or FWD? Every part of me prefers her to get a 4x4 (because it's a Jeep) but i don't have a solid justification for it. The difference in MPG for 4x4 and FWD is 3 MPG.

Would a 4x4 be more costly for service/maintenance compared to FWD over the lifespan of ownership?

Thanks in advance for your insights.

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Re: Cherokee 4x4 or FWD?

I had a 14 trail hawk 4x4 and i live in ca and i do make a trip to the drag strip now and then. The only reason i got rid of it was the troubles i had after they reflashed the tranny for the issues they were having. I got a great deal on a 15 limited FWD and its been great and the diff in wt was 519 lbs and that alone put my mph in the city 2 mpg better and on short trips 3 to 4 mpg better. Now if the wifey wants to go do some drag racing at the track in the 1/8 mile the 15 being 519 lbs lighter it was .32 quicker and 2.48 mph faster and the ride on the 15 fwd was a lot better. The only thing i miss on the 4x4 is the sports mode you could drive in that the transfer case had. IMO FWD all the way in ca type weather.
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I had a 14 trail hawk 4x4 and i live in ca and i do make a trip to the drag strip now and then. The only reason i got rid of it was the troubles i had after they reflashed the tranny for the issues they were having. I got a great deal on a 15 limited FWD and its been great and the diff in wt was 519 lbs and that alone put my mph in the city 2 mpg better and on short trips 3 to 4 mpg better. Now if the wifey wants to go do some drag racing at the track in the 1/8 mile the 15 being 519 lbs lighter it was .32 quicker and 2.48 mph faster and the ride on the 15 fwd was a lot better. The only thing i miss on the 4x4 is the sports mode you could drive in that the transfer case had. IMO FWD all the way in ca type weather.
I'm in CA as well. Was your Trail hawk 2.4L or 3.2L? What about your current Cherokee?
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I'm in CA as well. Was your Trail hawk 2.4L or 3.2L? What about your current Cherokee?
Both 3.2 motors as the 2.4 is to low on power for me lol. In the hot summer months using 87 octane intown i get 20.3 on small trips 28 mpg. Using 91 octane intown 22.5 and on small trips 32 mpg.
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My lady is in the market for a smaller SUV. Please keep in mind I have a JGC 4x4. We live in the city that does not snow, although roads do get slick when it rains due to the infrequency of rain. Anytime we go out in the desert/mountain, we have my JGC for offroad use.

Should she get a 4x4 or FWD? Every part of me prefers her to get a 4x4 (because it's a Jeep) but i don't have a solid justification for it. The difference in MPG for 4x4 and FWD is 3 MPG.

Would a 4x4 be more costly for service/maintenance compared to FWD over the lifespan of ownership?

Thanks in advance for your insights.
4WD will always work better, especially with stability control, on slick roads.
That said you just have to consider this one fact about the Cherokee.
* The Cherokee is FWD by default when using the "auto" function on the selector dial. This simply means that the Cherokee will default as much as possible to FWD and only use 4WD when conditions demand it. The switch between the two is seamless and most of the time is unnoticeable.

Thus with this set up you will maximize your MPG, as the vehicle will spend most of its time in FWD. That is unless you use one of the manual 4WD selections on the dial.



Thus the argument is null and void over FWD vs buying a AWD/4WD vehicle for MPG. This Cherokee has a unique drive train that takes advantage of both.

I have gotten 30+ mpg on the highway with my Limited V6 with AD2 and Tow group. It is using FWD most if not all the time of the time I am driving it. That is using 89 octane mostly. Lately I have been using 87 with no real difference in mpg.

The only real disadvantage of 4WD is the extra cost. But use it a couple of times it is worth it.
Also the MPG difference is not that great between the I4 and V6. When you realize the performance difference its a no brainer. That is unless you are all urban driving. Just remember the I4 has to work a lot harder to haul that weight and 4WD system around. That extra work narrows the gap in the MPG area.
Just a thought.

Have the lady drive both the I4 and V6 and combinations to see with what makes her approval list.
It will make for a fun day for the two of you.
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Would a 4x4 be more costly for service/maintenance compared to FWD over the lifespan of ownership?
Most likely. But that wouldn't stop me.
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Most likely. But that wouldn't stop me.
The only diff is servicing the 4x4 sys and the lower mpg thats about it. I had my 14 th for 16,000 miles with no problems UNTIL i had to get the tranny reflashed. IMO if you have to drive in snow then you can get the 4x4. You can get all modles in 4x4 and the only 1 you cat get with the V6 is the SPORT model. You dont need the TH to get 4x4. In ca i dont need 4x4 and after having both the TH and LIMITED i would pick the limited with the same options as its cheaper. Now if i had to have 4x4 i would pick the LIMITED because its price is cheaper than the TH. Heres both jeeps with same options. The only diff was the TH had off road tires because the limited didnt offer them. Now the TH may of had some other things as standard eq the limited didnt come with. The base price b4 options on both the limited was 301 dollars higher that the TH AND AFTER THE SAME OPTIONS THE TH is 1044 higher.
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Re: Cherokee 4x4 or FWD?

If you live anywhere near snow or potentially bad weather conditions, the resale on FWD jeeps are much lower. 4WD and Jeep are synonymous and used ones with out it are usually passed over.... I thought about it and my dealer strongly advised against it....
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Re: Cherokee 4x4 or FWD?

Maintenance costs over a FWD depend on what you do with it.
I tow so my maintenance costs are a bit higher due to the trans/ axle fluid changes I have to do. My past Jeeps were done every 20,000 miles or so depending on my towing.
Now that said this new Cherokee seems to be a bit different as it has "lifetime fluids" if you can say that for the Transmission and axles. Heavy use like towing still would require a fluid change before "lifetime". It all depends on load. I know the fluid is of very high quality and expensive. Other than that I do not know of any other maintenance that the 4WD would have over the FWD.

Also on my previous 3 Jeeps only one repair was needed on the 4WD system. That was a rear axle that burned up because the wrong fluid was put into it on a change. That year (2001) Cherokees Tow package required synthetic axle lube and regular was used. Regular lube was standard for all Non tow groups.
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Re: Cherokee 4x4 or FWD?

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My lady is in the market for a smaller SUV. Please keep in mind I have a JGC 4x4. We live in the city that does not snow, although roads do get slick when it rains due to the infrequency of rain. Anytime we go out in the desert/mountain, we have my JGC for offroad use.

Should she get a 4x4 or FWD? Every part of me prefers her to get a 4x4 (because it's a Jeep) but i don't have a solid justification for it. The difference in MPG for 4x4 and FWD is 3 MPG.

Would a 4x4 be more costly for service/maintenance compared to FWD over the lifespan of ownership?

Thanks in advance for your insights.
I currently own a 4x4 Latitude with the ADII option. I've averaging between 27-29 mpg real world, about 60% highway, 40 street. I think the real penalty in MPG isn't necessarily the 4x4 system, but the loss of aerodynamics going from the ADI to the ADII setup. In auto mode the rear drive disconnects to prevent parasitic loss, so it pretty much behaves like a FWD until you actually need the traction in the rear. The other settings under traction control (Snow, Sport, Sand) do force the rear to engage in various axle biases, so there will be a mpg loss if they are used. Better then getting stuck, in my opinion.
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Re: Cherokee 4x4 or FWD?

Thanks for all the replies guys. All of your replies are logical and justifiable. We ended up leasing a FWD 2.4L yesterday from our local dealership. My lady decided on leasing because she wanted to try out the vehicle for a few years. If it suits her, she'll purchase another Cherokee when her lease ends. Her justification on getting the smaller motor and FWD was mainly for MPG. She needed the cargo room for our dog, and possibly and child within the next couple of years. She's a safe driver and had no issues on her sedan with a 4 cylinder and FWD as a daily driver for the last 8 years.

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