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Old 07-11-2014, 04:22 PM
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I'm a newbie with lots of questions. Haven't bought a Cherokee ... yet but it's at top of our shopping list. Want to be sure I have all the proverbial ducks in a row... Toad-wise here.

Three major towbar baseplate manufacturers that keep getting mentioned here and elsewhere. Has anyone done an evaluation of baseplate offerings for the Cherokee? [BlueOx, Demco, Roadmaster] I've browsed their websites and looked over some of the install instructions.

Neither look terribly more complex that baseplates I've installed on other toads I've had... but there's nothing like actual real experience. Anyone that has done the install... BlueOx Demco or Roadmaster, please comment here.

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I installed the BlueOx baseplates and really liked them. I towed my Cherokee Trailhawk for over 3,000 miles in May/June and did not have any problems. The steering definitely turns when being pulled. I could see and verify that when turning sharp corners and looking in mirror. I detailed my install in a different post and also have a bunch of pictures in one of my albums here.

Here is the link to the post I am talking about.
Blue Ox Baseplate for Trailhawk
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Re: Flat towing behind an RV

My BlueOx baseplates are still sitting in the box unopened. Hopefully my son will have time to install them in the next two weeks. I'll report back after the event.
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:37 PM
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My BlueOx baseplates are still sitting in the box unopened. Hopefully my son will have time to install them in the next two weeks. I'll report back after the event.
Hopefully he gets them installed soon. Mine worked like a charm with no problems. I would recommend them for anybody for sure.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:03 AM
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Hopefully he gets them installed soon. Mine worked like a charm with no problems. I would recommend them for anybody for sure.

Hi. I installed the Demco base plate set a month or so ago. The only hassle I had was removing the fascia. The secret is the tabs attaching it at the rear to the fender require an outward pull - pulling in any other direction will not work.

The base plates did not require any fettling of the car, nor did I have to remove the bumper bar.

Here are a few pics of the work in progress. The ramps were certainly helpful. ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1405256528.390831.jpgImageUploadedByJeepGarage1405256553.771982.jpgImageUploadedByJeepGarage1405256580.594970.jpgImageUploadedByJeepGarage1405256606.251269.jpg



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Old 07-13-2014, 08:11 AM
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Has anyone tried lifting front wheels off the ground and seeing if the steering will go full-left to full-right? That step would verify for sure that there's no locking mechanism.

Please take it as read: There is no steering wheel lock on the Cherokee.


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Old 07-13-2014, 08:18 AM
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Hi. I installed the Demco base plate set a month or so ago. The only hassle I had was removing the fascia. The secret is the tabs attaching it at the rear to the fender require an outward pull - pulling in any other direction will not work.

The base plates did not require any fettling of the car, nor did I have to remove the bumper bar.



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Looks very similar to the BlueOx basaeplates that I installed on mine back in April/May. Yes you are right about the Front Fascia. The BlueOx instructions says to pull back and out on part of the facia closest to the wheels. Once you know how, it is not too bad.
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Re: Flat towing behind an RV

In process now. For BO installers - step 4 is removing rivets and they don't say how. My son (B.Eng Manufacturing, MEng Mechanical) wondered why they didn't issue instruction on how to remove them (says no way he wants to drill them out - he removed one side and went home to get another tool to work on the other side) or provide instructions for the replacement of the rivets when reassembling.

Any comments on the rivets from those who have done this? Rather than print the instructions we have them up on the computer screen next toys and can blow them up which has been helpful.

BO should not do the instructions until they get feedback from a couple of cold installs.

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Re: Flat towing behind an RV

Have them installed - plates themselves were a piece of cake. Cables were a PITA.
Instructions are missing one step with a screw on each side in the wheel wells and we confirmed that by looking at the Demco instructions which have more clarity and are much more complete. Spent an hour measuring and contemplating the cut-outs in the honeycomb and that too was a PITA. Not the same position as the TH photos and also not the same as in the BO diagram since it was the first one done and likely varied a bit.

Now my problem will be where to put the breakaway mount. Have to think about that for a while It is all going back together now with not too many problems.

No question. This is just like making sausage - you don't want to watch the process if you plan to eat them.

Next step is replacing the four rivets that we pulled. The Demco instructions at least said drill them out. BO was silent. Clearly BO is far too silent on too many things - such as where to wrap the safety cables that Demco and Roadmaster don't use.

Well, back to work. That is a lie - back to watching the guy doing the work.

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....Next step is replacing the four rivets that we pulled. GR
Where are you getting the replacement rivets from? Dealer, Lowes, any idea?
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I tried plastic rivets but they did not hold well so I went with small small machine screw with phillips head and nut and lock washer, it is underneath where don't see anyways
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Yes I agree the safety cables were a PITA and BO was not great on how to install the safety cables
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I tried plastic rivets but they did not hold well so I went with small small machine screw with phillips head and nut and lock washer, it is underneath where don't see anyways
Two of those chintzy plastic types they provided broke and my son used small bolts and nuts as well.

Overall it went pretty good. BO missed a step involving one screw in the wheel well on each side and we found it interesting that Demco highlight it so well. One could have done a bit of damage trying to pull the fascia off without taking those screws out.

We fell the baseplates are VERY strong and with five bolts in them with RED Loctite my son and I wonder why BO provides the security cable to wrap around them when it appears that neither Demco nor Roadmaster provides such cables. I was really tempted to say lets not put them on when we found the BO's instructions as to where to run them were terrible.

We sat and deliberated as to where to cut through the honeycomb. That wasted some time but it worked out reasonable well.

I had called BO several months ago and asked how much to put on their plates that I'd already purchased - $500.

I decided that my son and I have no retired from the baseplate installation biz. First set on our Colorado was done by a dealer. Second on Taho we (meaning "he") did and they were the easiest since not fascia to remove - did it all from below. Only issue was BO screwed up when it said no cutting involved and we had to do some trimming. The Escape was a PITA and this one was somewhere between the Tahoe and Escape. I've told DW that she is going to keep this car until our RVing days are done (we are both over 70).

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