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Re: Flat towing behind an RV

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...By the way I received a followup from Jeep this AM.[INDENT]"Thank you for your reply.

There are no indications of any changes to the 2015 Jeep Cherokee that would not allow this vehicle to be Recreationally Towed (Flat Towed - all 4 wheels on the ground). The 2 speed transfer case with electronic neutral allows all axles to disconnect from the drivetrain to allow it to be flat towed.

There are no noted changes to the chassis or bumper area but you would have to verify with the manufacturer of the tow bar and base plate to be assured that this accessory is available for 2015 models. Roadmaster lists the same part number for 2014 and 2015 Jeep Cherokee....

Keep us apprised of your experiences with your '15 Limited... Yours'll definitely come in sooner that mine (ordered yesterday).

By the way, which baseplate manfacturer are you thinking of using?
Congratulations on your new order!

What a difference in Jeep's response. That covered a lot of bases. Thanks for sharing.

I've used the Blue Ox baseplate and tow bar. Very pleased. I'm going with them again. My Aventa tow bar is eight years old now so I'm replacing it. I made two mistakes with it. 1) I set the Brake Buddy to act like a drag chute every time I braked on our previous gas rig. That mistake wore slop into the tow bar. It could be rebuilt but I decided to go with a new one. 2) I didn't do the annual maintenance of lubing the bars under the boot. I know better this time.

I'll keep y'all posted when my Jeep comes in
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Re: Flat towing behind an RV

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Brakebuddy recommends using a separately wired, dedicated outlet for powering their unit. One advantage is that you are in control of the wire gauge and location of the outlet. I've done this on a few previous toads.
I may look at that since it would not be difficult to connect a fused line directly to the battery (I assume - but I'll get my son to do it). The BB plug did get pretty warm (well, very warm) but we had tested the performance of the clevis at least a dozen times in a short period and I figured that was the reason. When we returned the MH to the storage yard and disconnected the BB it was not hot - and while it was on for the trip the light indicating that it was used didn't come on even once. I have a habit of driving so that it has to be used infrequently. Kind of like the air brakes on the two DPs we had. I could use the exhaust brake effectively and often didn't have to touch the service brakes until the very end of the stopping process (about 15 mph).
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:39 PM
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I may look at that since it would not be difficult to connect a fused line directly to the battery (I assume - but I'll get my son to do it). The BB plug did get pretty warm (well, very warm) but we had tested the performance of the clevis at least a dozen times in a short period and I figured that was the reason. When we returned the MH to the storage yard and disconnected the BB it was not hot - and while it was on for the trip the light indicating that it was used didn't come on even once. I have a habit of driving so that it has to be used infrequently. Kind of like the air brakes on the two DPs we had. I could use the exhaust brake effectively and often didn't have to touch the service brakes until the very end of the stopping process (about 15 mph).
That's my thought too. How often and long is the compressor really going to run?

Anyway when I ran in 'drag-chute mode', I never had a problem with blown fuses. Looking at several installation manuals they suggest:

At a minimum, a 15-amp 12-volt cigarette lighter or
auxiliary power plug is required to operate the BrakeBuddy.


BTW - this is kind of a rant and it goes back to your comment about your loose BB plug. When are the car manufacturers going to replace the cigarette lighter with a decent outlet? I understand having ONE in a vehicle so smokers can light up. But can't we get a better standard 12V outlet that's not so bulky and prone to disconnect?
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Re: Flat towing behind an RV

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That's my thought too. How often and long is the compressor really going to run?

Anyway when I ran in 'drag-chute mode', I never had a problem with blown fuses. Looking at several installation manuals they suggest:

At a minimum, a 15-amp 12-volt cigarette lighter or
auxiliary power plug is required to operate the BrakeBuddy.


BTW - this is kind of a rant and it goes back to your comment about your loose BB plug. When are the car manufacturers going to replace the cigarette lighter with a decent outlet? I understand having ONE in a vehicle so smokers can light up. But can't we get a better standard 12V outlet that's not so bulky and prone to disconnect?
Agree. I think I'm going to use the outlet in the armrest and if it causes a problem (the Colorado, Tahoe and Escape didn't) then I'll consider a separate 12V receptacle.

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Congratulations on your new order!

What a difference in Jeep's response. That covered a lot of bases. Thanks for sharing.

I've used the Blue Ox baseplate and tow bar. Very pleased. I'm going with them again. My Aventa tow bar is eight years old now so I'm replacing it. I made two mistakes with it. 1) I set the Brake Buddy to act like a drag chute every time I braked on our previous gas rig. That mistake wore slop into the tow bar. It could be rebuilt but I decided to go with a new one. 2) I didn't do the annual maintenance of lubing the bars under the boot. I know better this time.

I'll keep y'all posted when my Jeep comes in
Hi again, Array, What made you choose Blue Ox over Roadmaster and Demco?
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When I chose my first and only one in 2006, BO baseplates left the front of the vehicle clean looking after the attachment tabs were removed. The tow bar stored on the back of the RV. The universal joint on the Aventa tow bar made hookup easy. I have not compared to Roadmaster or Demco since then. Let me know how you think they compare now.
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...BlueOx tells me there is a "design change" for the 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk. Their representative was not sure what the change is but it is on the "spread sheet that contains the models that will require an new baseplate design".
Got this from Blue Ox on 8/6:

I spoke to our product coordinator and he indicated that at this time the 2015 Jeep Trailhawk will more than likely be using the same baseplate as the 2014. He also double checked with the dealer in our area to see when they will be getting the vehicle in so that we can double check. He was told that the vehicle is in transit, soon we should have a definitive answer regarding the baseplate. If for some reason the baseplate does not cross over he has put your name at the top of the list for the fit program. Hopeful we will have an answer soon and I will then be in contact with you if that is ok.

I had to remind them I'm getting a Limited, not a TH. But I thought you would be interested. I doubt there will be a change for either model based on the info Jeep sent you.
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Got this from Blue Ox on 8/6:

I spoke to our product coordinator and he indicated that at this time the 2015 Jeep Trailhawk will more than likely be using the same baseplate as the 2014. He also double checked with the dealer in our area to see when they will be getting the vehicle in so that we can double check. He was told that the vehicle is in transit, soon we should have a definitive answer regarding the baseplate. If for some reason the baseplate does not cross over he has put your name at the top of the list for the fit program. Hopeful we will have an answer soon and I will then be in contact with you if that is ok.

I had to remind them I'm getting a Limited, not a TH. But I thought you would be interested. I doubt there will be a change for either model based on the info Jeep sent you.
Thanks for the info. So there'll be at least two choices now.

I need to read the install instructions and compare.
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Re: Has the steering wheel lock be eliminated?

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3. Turn the ignition switch to the ON/RUN position, but do not start the engine....
Hi, I'm now re-reading all the stuff about towing now that my TH is about 2 wks from delivery...

How does step 3 change when you have the start/stop button instead of the key? There's got to be a simple answer... I just can't seem to find it in the forums.
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Do not put foot on brake and push start button twice and it will be on the on position without starting the engine.
btw it is in the owners manual how to get to on position without starting.
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Re: Flat towing behind an RV

BTW....Like others I have had a problem with the clevis arrangement on my Brake Buddy not going over the top of the wide brake pedal shaft on my TH. I tried to grid the notch wider but I was still not happy. I emailed Brake Buddy and got and a very quick response that they have a new set up and they are sending the new clevis to me free of charge. great company with good customer service.
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BTW....Like others I have had a problem with the clevis arrangement on my Brake Buddy not going over the top of the wide brake pedal shaft on my TH. I tried to grid the notch wider but I was still not happy. I emailed Brake Buddy and got and a very quick response that they have a new set up and they are sending the new clevis to me free of charge. great company with good customer service.
Nice job! I'll have to call them too. Thanks.
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