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Re: How's the 15 Cherokee and what's expected for 16?

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Sand is a tricky surface. It can be very hard - and easy to walk, bike and drive. OTOH, it can be very soft and extremely hard to walk, impossible to bike and very hard on a vehicle. I've hiked beaches with a 45# backpack, and it slammed my "personal transmission" in very short order.

Implying that the Jeep is "sand ready" is clearly marketing over-reach - and Jeep should be flogged for it. They need a lawyerly disclaimer that "Trail Rated" is NOT the same as a "Sand Rated" dune buggy.

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Lol yeah, I guess that sand button is for in case you drive your Jeep into the sand trap on the golf course... not 2 miles over the dunes at Kitty Hawk.

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Had mine for 8 months and most of it has been Hell. I am now trying to trade my 2015 Trailhawk after it has never been fixed. The transmission shifts poorly and overheats every time that I take it on the beach. FCA pretended for 3 months that they were trying to fix it it and now tells me that the Trail Rated Trailhawk is not designed for the beach. "Trail Rated" unless there is sand on the trail. What a bad joke!
My service manager now says that even if he put a brand new tranny in the car that it would still overheat in sand yet they still have the gall to sell these lemons to other victims.
An independent mechanic proclaimed the transmission to be bad but FCA says "operating as intended." Go to Cargurus and look at all the complaints before you buy.
Tomorrow is my big decision, 4Runner or Outback 3.6r. I have tested them both and it looks like it will be a new Outback even though I will have to wait 10 weeks for one to be shipped. My 2005 Outback traveled the same beach for 6 years that my Cherokee fails on every single time.
BTW, go to Kelly Blue Book and you will be shocked how fast these Cherokees are going down. Mine has lost over $11,000 in the first 8 months. We are talking Yugo numbers here. Resale says it all.
FYI: there is a class action law suit regarding Subaru's Boxer engines burning oil. Some owners state they may loose a quart every 3 to 5 thousand miles.

Our Subaru experience; We did all the research a few years ago and decided to purchase an Outback Supposedly one of the most dependable vehicles made.
The day after we got it home there was a puddle of transmission fluid on the garage floor. We had to return it for a new transmission seal. They did not have the parts. They had the car for four days. It was BRAND NEW!
At 18000 miles the heater core sprung a leak and dumped water and coolant into the interior of the car soaking the carpets. What a mess! We smelled coolant residue for weeks afterwards. After fighting with the dealer we finally got them to replace the carpets.
After 21000 miles and a new heater core the same thing happened again! More coolant dumped into the interior. They could not figure out why this happened the first time let alone twice. The A/C never worked as it should after the first heater core change. They could not fix that issue either.
We dumped the car just prior to the warranty expiring. Shweeeew!
You'll never get me in a Subaru again.
Bottom line; all vehicles will have lemons & most owners will complain on forums and are outnumbered by satisfied owners.

Very sorry to hear of your issues. So far so good for us in our 2015 KL.
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FYI: there is a class action law suit regarding Subaru's Boxer engines burning oil. Some owners state they may loose a quart every 3 to 5 thousand miles.

Our Subaru experience; We did all the research a few years ago and decided to purchase an Outback Supposedly one of the most dependable vehicles made.
The day after we got it home there was a puddle of transmission fluid on the garage floor. We had to return it for a new transmission seal. They did not have the parts. They had the car for four days. It was BRAND NEW!
At 18000 miles the heater core sprung a leak and dumped water and coolant into the interior of the car soaking the carpets. What a mess! We smelled coolant residue for weeks afterwards. After fighting with the dealer we finally got them to replace the carpets.
After 21000 miles and a new heater core the same thing happened again! More coolant dumped into the interior. They could not figure out why this happened the first time let alone twice. The A/C never worked as it should after the first heater core change. They could not fix that issue either.
We dumped the car just prior to the warranty expiring. Shweeeew!
You'll never get me in a Subaru again.
Bottom line; all vehicles will have lemons & most owners will complain on forums and are outnumbered by satisfied owners.

Very sorry to hear of your issues. So far so good for us in our 2015 KL.
Of of my good friends got married last year and had a baby this year. He and his wife bought a Subaru Forester that was a "certified" low mileage used vehicle. At the first 5,000 mile oil change interval he pulled the drain plug and got 1 quart of oil(!). Found out that it had been burning oil like mad. Hit Google and found tons of reports of the same. Dealer wouldn't help him but offered to sell him a brand new one! NO THANKS.
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