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I would have no problem with $37K for a loaded limited, if I could delete the sunroof, because sunroofs take too much out of the headroom (37.9" with sunroof/39.4" without).
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I've seen 2 exhaust iterations on the Cherokee. One with a single exhaust on the driver side and one with dual exhaust. Is this config I-4 and the V6 respectively?
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I've seen 2 exhaust iterations on the Cherokee. One with a single exhaust on the driver side and one with dual exhaust. Is this config I-4 and the V6 respectively?
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I'm hoping for a nicely equipped Cherokee (standard base model) that starts at $22,500 to directly compete against the wildly popular Ford Escape.

I am with you. Low $20's to start and say $26-$28K for a decently equipped 4WD. This talk of mid $30's to even $40K for a small SUV seems crazy to me even if it is the top of the line. If that is the true price point They can keep the Cherokee IMO. If they truly are that expensive I think the model will be a failure because it will be too $$$. For that kind of money you can get a loaded FS Ram with a HEMI for crying out loud.
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I hope not. Hopefully, it's not priced like the Patriot... "starting at $15,000"... but if you want anything half decent, it's like an automatic $5,000-$7,000 more.
There is nothing wrong with the Patriot. I have a loaded 2011 complete with sunroof and it was just $24K. It is a nice little vehicle and a lot of bang for the buck. If Jeep brought the Cherokee in at a good price point like that( I know it will be higher ), and then actually marketed it( unlike what they do with the Patriot - BIG mistake ), they could clean up.

If they are going to overcharge( $35-$40K is too much no matter how loaded it is )they are going to fail with it IMO.
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I am with you. Low $20's to start and say $26-$28K for a decently equipped 4WD. This talk of mid $30's to even $40K for a small SUV seems crazy to me even if it is the top of the line. If that is the true price point They can keep the Cherokee IMO. If they truly are that expensive I think the model will be a failure because it will be too $$$. For that kind of money you can get a loaded FS Ram with a HEMI for crying out loud.
People shopping for full sized trucks are doing comparisons against full size trucks. People shopping for small to mid-size SUVs are doing comparisons against small to mid-size SUVs.
So your argument doesn't make much sense.
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There is nothing wrong with the Patriot. I have a loaded 2011 complete with sunroof and it was just $24K. It is a nice little vehicle and a lot of bang for the buck.
The problem with the Patriot is that it's so bare bones at the offering point. By the time you add the options that are standard for most, you are competing against vehicles that have vastly superior technology and performance. The other big problem, especially if you're in the midwest, is the Patriot's rapid depreciation versus other vehicles. This has been well documented.

My hopes for the Cherokee is that the budget buyer stays away and that it gets closer aligned to the Grand Cherokee or Wrangler in terms of value and resale value.

In two years, a 24k Patriot becomes worth 17k or 18k, while a 28k Wrangler becomes 25k. And the spread only becomes wider after that.
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People shopping for full sized trucks are doing comparisons against full size trucks. People shopping for small to mid-size SUVs are doing comparisons against small to mid-size SUVs.
So your argument doesn't make much sense.
Of course it makes sense. If a full sized 4WD truck can be purchased, well optioned, for $35-$40K a little suv like the new Cherokee should not cost the same amount.
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The problem with the Patriot is that it's so bare bones at the offering point. By the time you add the options that are standard for most, you are competing against vehicles that have vastly superior technology and performance. The other big problem, especially if you're in the midwest, is the Patriot's rapid depreciation versus other vehicles. This has been well documented.

My hopes for the Cherokee is that the budget buyer stays away and that it gets closer aligned to the Grand Cherokee or Wrangler in terms of value and resale value.

In two years, a 24k Patriot becomes worth 17k or 18k, while a 28k Wrangler becomes 25k. And the spread only becomes wider after that.

I really don't agree. I got a LOT of vehicle for a little money by today's standards with my Patriot. It isn't lacking many features and the build quallity is as good as the competition. A top of the line Patriot with just about everything offered is only going to set you back what an Equinox, Pilot, Rav4, etc... start out at or moderate ones at worst.

Also, I am sorry but depreciation is not as bad as you talk of. Not around here anyway. I just looked up my vehicle's approx value( KBB and NADA )and it is $20,500-$23,400 depending on which condition in KBB you would agree on and/or which value guide you go by. It was less than $25K new. That isn't a lot of depreciation.

Jeep already has an expensive top of the line SUV in the Grand Cherokee. To price the smaller regular Cherokee in the same ball park is ludicrous. Sorry but I just don't understand people wanting it to be so expensive and seeming to be ok with it?

The Cherokee is supposed to be a small suv that replaces the Liberty. The Liberty was over priced but at the least the new Cherokee should be in the same approx price range. As I said $26K-$28K for a decent 4WD.

The new Cherokee is more advanced than the Patrriot and I fully expect to pay more for it. However, it should not cost as much as a Grand Cherokee nor a full sized 4WD truck. That is just way too expensive and IMO will really hurt sales.

I am actually very interested in the new Cherokee but if it sets me back more than $28K MAX for a decent 4WD version they can keep it. Now by decent I don't mean leather, sunroof, etc... I am not talking loaded. Basic power, AC, cruise, 6 cyl. Hopefully a nav system too( I might go $29K max with nav but would be very hesitant ).
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I really don't agree. I got a LOT of vehicle for a little money by today's standards with my Patriot. It isn't lacking many features and the build quallity is as good as the competition. A top of the line Patriot with just about everything offered is only going to set you back what an Equinox, Pilot, Rav4, etc... start out at or moderate ones at worst.

Also, I am sorry but depreciation is not as bad as you talk of. Not around here anyway. I just looked up my vehicle's approx value( KBB and NADA )and it is $20,500-$23,400 depending on which condition in KBB you would agree on and/or which value guide you go by. It was less than $25K new. That isn't a lot of depreciation.

Jeep already has an expensive top of the line SUV in the Grand Cherokee. To price the smaller regular Cherokee in the same ball park is ludicrous. Sorry but I just don't understand people wanting it to be so expensive and seeming to be ok with it?

The Cherokee is supposed to be a small suv that replaces the Liberty. The Liberty was over priced but at the least the new Cherokee should be in the same approx price range. As I said $26K-$28K for a decent 4WD.

The new Cherokee is more advanced than the Patrriot and I fully expect to pay more for it. However, it should not cost as much as a Grand Cherokee nor a full sized 4WD truck. That is just way too expensive and IMO will really hurt sales.

I am actually very interested in the new Cherokee but if it sets me back more than $28K MAX for a decent 4WD version they can keep it. Now by decent I don't mean leather, sunroof, etc... I am not talking loaded. Basic power, AC, cruise, 6 cyl. Hopefully a nav system too( I might go $29K max with nav but would be very hesitant ).
Sorry, wasn't trying to knock your ride. I do like the exterior look of the Patriots. Just passing along my observations and the trends I've been reading about. I just did a quick search in my area and found a Certified 2012 Latitude 4x4 fully loaded with sunroof with 11k miles for $19,000 being offered by a local dealer. Some serious depreciation there.

I hope you are right about the Cherokee prices being reasonable!
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