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Re: RO1 Recall

The dealership REEEEEALY doesn't like to do replacements on the KL. I think the main issue is FCA doesn't give them enough time to properly do the relearn. Some dealers are situated where that procedure is within the flat-rate, where others end up losing money if they do it properly.
In any case, after my wife (the primary driver) and I discussed continuing with this torture, we decided it was time to Lemon Law the KL. Too many strikes against it to continue. Our problem is that the majority of our driving is rural mountain highway with no cell service....no way to call for help. The first tranny died in one of our 'no-call' zones and the wife had to sit along the road for about an hour letting the trans cool down enough to try to get home. The second trans died after the infamous RO1.
We really liked the car....no issues other than the trans., but it's time to say goodby, sadly.

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Had RO1 performed on Feb.25th. I have just finished a 2500 mile trip and the transmission is shifting just the way it was before RO1 was performed, flawlessly and smooth. Still getting 26-27 MPG.
I see several people had RO1 on this board and say that the car still shifts the same as before. That has not at all been my experience. Before the recall I loved my V6 2015 Trailhawk. I put 11,500 miles on it to florida, several fishing trips to the NC mountains and I live at the beach so I'm off road a lot.
Since RO1, I cannot stand to drive this vehicle. It is always in too high a gear and after 4 trips to the dealer and two dealer "relearnings" there has been absolutely no improvement. I now have over 3000 miles on the car since RO1 and feel lucky to be alive. I won't take it back to the mountains until it is restored to what I purchased.
It took me 4 trips to the dealer for them to level with me that RO1 prevents a 3-2 downshift so how can people claim the car drives as before? When I go around a corner even at 2mph, my car remains in third gear. The only way to get going again is to floor it which redlines the engine before it shifts all the way to first with a long delay.
Also since RO1, my 4WD goes out every time I am on the beach and the tranny temp is running up to 208 degrees on a 77 degree day. Once the 4WD goes out, I lose cruise control until the next day.
The local dealer here has been useless as has Customerassist. They both keep referring back to each other like neither has a clue.
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Old 05-17-2015, 06:41 PM
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Re: RO1 Recall

All I can say is that my Limited shifts just as smooth now, post RO1, as it did pre RO1. The fact that the down shift eliminates 2nd gear hasn't bothered me. I don't drive off road or drive it hard. I'm satisfied with the modification and if it makes the transmission more durable (as per the RO1 stated) then I'm all for it.

I'm sorry you are having issues and are unhappy with your jeep. I hope your dealer can get it to your satisfaction.
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"I'm satisfied with the modification and if it"

I'm curious. What happens when you roll through a turn at about 3-4mph and then have to accelerate to get ahead of trafic? Do you have to floor it like I do? I'm also curious if you drive in hilly terrain. Since RO1, cruise control is useless in the mountains. It lags 2mph below target speed followed by a surge twomph over. When reaching the crest of a hill, mine has gone up to 5mph over target set speed.
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"I'm satisfied with the modification and if it"

I'm curious. What happens when you roll through a turn at about 3-4mph and then have to accelerate to get ahead of trafic? Do you have to floor it like I do? I'm also curious if you drive in hilly terrain. Since RO1, cruise control is useless in the mountains. It lags 2mph below target speed followed by a surge twomph over. When reaching the crest of a hill, mine has gone up to 5mph over target set speed.
Well at 3- 4 mph mine is in 3rd gear and b4 the flashes it would be in 1st gear and thats what i want changed or ill go lemon law and i have told jeep at there head quarters that and they said if it dont change anything then they will get CASE MANAGEMENT to get involved. As it it now b4 i come to a stop i manually shift to 2nd at 15 mph then 1st at 5 mph that way its in 1st gear when i stop not 3 rd like it is now and have to wait 3 to 4 seconds to go from 3rd to 1st after i stop in auto mode.
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Well at 3- 4 mph mine is in 3rd gear and b4 the flashes it would be in 1st gear and thats what i want changed or ill go lemon law and i have told jeep at there head quarters that and they said if it dont change anything then they will get CASE MANAGEMENT to get involved. As it it now b4 i come to a stop i manually shift to 2nd at 15 mph then 1st at 5 mph that way its in 1st gear when i stop not 3 rd like it is now and have to wait 3 to 4 seconds to go from 3rd to 1st after i stop in auto mode.
Sounds like my case that has been open for 6 weeks with zero results. I have lost all confidence in customerassist. So how can some of these posters claim that they are happy with this when RO1 renders their car incapable of accelerating from below 10mph without flooring it into first gear?
I just let an independent mechanic drive my car and he was absolutely shocked that the dealer put me back out on the street with this transmission so now I am going to have to drive to South Carolina to another dealer and see what they say.
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There's really nothing that can be done with the post-RO1 non-downshift until FCA finds someone intelligent enough to program proper shift maps for these 9-speeds. Until then it's 'operating as intended'...yeah, right.
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"There's really nothing that can be done with the post-RO1 non-downshift until FCA finds someone intelligent enough to program proper shift maps for these 9-speeds. Until then it's 'operating as intended'...yeah, right."

Which brings me to the question that nobody at the dealership or the fraudulent Chrysler will answer. If they know that RO1 is screwing up a normal driving experience, why are they doing it?

I think I know by what I feel in the car. These frauds must believe that if they lower the torque in the car by keeping it in a higher gear, they may be able to stall for time until the lemon law or your warranty expires. They must believe that the lowered torque will prolong the agony until complete failure and they have to spend some coin. It's going to backfire though because once we have slowed down, without second gear the only way to get going again is to floor it down into first. I can feel my tranny slipping when I do that and the engine redlines. They may have to provide a tranny and an engine.
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Re: RO1 Recall

I have been watching this discussion. I have to be careful what I say so please feel free to read between the lines. I live close to Chrysler headquarter in Auburn Hills, Michigan. Several, to remain unnamed, Chrysler engineers live in my area. I have unofficially been told the problem with this transmission has to do with the way it is assembled and the extremely close tolerances in it. Any shaving, dust, or dirt that gets in the transmission and you have a problem. Software is a band aid fix as software can not replace damaged hardware. The only real fix is to replace the transmission with one that has not been contaminated. The other problem with software is that once you have a flash done there is no way to go back to how things were before. If Chrysler is serious about fixing this transmission they will assemble it in a "clean room" but I don't see that happening because of the expense involved.
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I guess my two recalls were late to the party. I have a 2014 Latitude V6 that I bought in June of last year. I got the recalls in the mail Feb/March time frame. As others have stated. No noticeable changes after the recall. Prior to the recall I did a 2500 mile round trip to Florida and my Jeep performed flawlessly.
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I have been watching this discussion. I have to be careful what I say so please feel free to read between the lines. I live close to Chrysler headquarter in Auburn Hills, Michigan. Several, to remain unnamed, Chrysler engineers live in my area. I have unofficially been told the problem with this transmission has to do with the way it is assembled and the extremely close tolerances in it. Any shaving, dust, or dirt that gets in the transmission and you have a problem. Software is a band aid fix as software can not replace damaged hardware. The only real fix is to replace the transmission with one that has not been contaminated. The other problem with software is that once you have a flash done there is no way to go back to how things were before. If Chrysler is serious about fixing this transmission they will assemble it in a "clean room" but I don't see that happening because of the expense involved.
Well, I can appreciate the "close tolerances" and the dust and dirt "contamination problems". However it wasn't dirt that ruined my vehicle, nor "close tolerances." Mine ran superb until RO1 disabled 2nd gear. What infuriates me is how Chrysler is letting us waste valuable time returning for service calls, the dealers faking surprise that people are complaining, when they know darn well that the problems are caused by the new software. RO1 limits the timing of downshifts and completely prohibits a 3-2 downshift. I've been driving since the 60s and 2nd gear has always been the most important for acceleration so only a complete lunatic would disable second.
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I have a question that I haven't seen answered. Are the new 2015 Cherokees coming off the assembly line shifting like the post R01 recall (skipping 2nd) or like the pre R01 recall, using 2nd gear on the way down?
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