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I have a question that I haven't seen answered. Are the new 2015 Cherokees coming off the assembly line shifting like the post R01 recall (skipping 2nd) or like the pre R01 recall, using 2nd gear on the way down?


Nobody would buy it if it did skip second. It's that bad. My 2015 ran fantastic for the first 6 months before RO1 but the way it is now, nobody would buy it. It's not just second either, RO1 keeps the car in too high a gear at all times so you are lacking torque.
If I could have any wish granted it would be to make the Chrysler CEO spend a day driving this car in the mountains, any mountains. If he survived the day, I guarantee you that he would be so concerned with future accident lawsuits that he would turn this RO1 thing around pronto.

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Thank you jstrand. I'm asking mostly because we have a 2015 being delivered this week or next for my wife. If it skipped 2nd from the factory, I have a feeling even my wife would notice, and she rarely notices car things.

We didn't notice any such oddities during the test drive, but I wasn't really paying attention then.
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Thank you jstrand. I'm asking mostly because we have a 2015 being delivered this week or next for my wife. If it skipped 2nd from the factory, I have a feeling even my wife would notice, and she rarely notices car things.

We didn't notice any such oddities during the test drive, but I wasn't really paying attention then.
Test it before you take delivery. The best way is to take it up to about 25 or so and then slow all the way down to about 4-5mph and then give it gas. If it is the V6, it will shift down to 2nd immediately and you should have great power. If it has RO1, there will be huge hesitation and no immediate power until you floor it. I would also try this on a hill. Before RO1, my transmission was very fast shifting on demand and would hold cruise control right on target both uphill and downhill. With RO1 cruise varies all over the place on hills.
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Test it before you take delivery. The best way is to take it up to about 25 or so and then slow all the way down to about 4-5mph and then give it gas. If it is the V6, it will shift down to 2nd immediately and you should have great power. If it has RO1, there will be huge hesitation and no immediate power until you floor it. I would also try this on a hill. Before RO1, my transmission was very fast shifting on demand and would hold cruise control right on target both uphill and downhill. With RO1 cruise varies all over the place on hills.
I've done this test numerous times and mine does not hesitate. There is plenty of torque with the V6 in 3rd at 2-5 mph to accelerate without hesitation. I've even done this on a hill without issue.

Could it be that the technician did not perform the "learn and drive" procedure correctly? I have not has an issue with the shifting or with hesitation since the RO1 was performed. Then I didn't have those issues before it was performed either.

Just my $.02 worth. I feel for those having issues and can not get resolution. My Limited is too much fun and comfortable when on trips.
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I've done this test numerous times and mine does not hesitate. There is plenty of torque with the V6 in 3rd at 2-5 mph to accelerate without hesitation. I've even done this on a hill without issue.

Could it be that the technician did not perform the "learn and drive" procedure correctly? I have not has an issue with the shifting or with hesitation since the RO1 was performed. Then I didn't have those issues before it was performed either.

Just my $.02 worth. I feel for those having issues and can not get resolution. My Limited is too much fun and comfortable when on trips.
I'll have to echo that as well. I agree the seats in the Cherokee are awesome.
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Re: RO1 Recall

"There is plenty of torque with the V6 in 3rd at 2-5 mph to"

Not in my Trailhawk nor any other car that I have ever driven since the 60s. You are not supposed to be in 3rd gear at 5mph. There are far too many complaints all over the web about this problem to ignore it.
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My 14 TH has had all flashes including the RO1 and while I have and occasional clunky shift it otherwise runs great. I now have 15,000 miles on the vehicle and other than the flashes (many) I have only had one CEL and transmission service warning and the flash seemed to fix that issue and that was 7,000 miles ago. The V-6 has plenty of cuts for me from dead stop to highway. great vehicle that exceeds my expectations, I have had 8 jeeps over the years so a great supporter of the brand. If I was not satisfied I would be complaining big time, I have had issues with two of Jeeps and in both cases they purchased the vehicles back with no question...MSRP against MSRP, how can you complain about that? I do wish they would just put a lifetime warranty on these transmissions and put and end to the complaints and worry. Ths.
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My 14 TH has had all flashes including the RO1 and while I have and occasional clunky shift it otherwise runs great. I now have 15,000 miles on the vehicle and other than the flashes (many) I have only had one CEL and transmission service warning and the flash seemed to fix that issue and that was 7,000 miles ago. The V-6 has plenty of cuts for me from dead stop to highway. great vehicle that exceeds my expectations, I have had 8 jeeps over the years so a great supporter of the brand. If I was not satisfied I would be complaining big time, I have had issues with two of Jeeps and in both cases they purchased the vehicles back with no question...MSRP against MSRP, how can you complain about that? I do wish they would just put a lifetime warranty on these transmissions and put and end to the complaints and worry. Ths.
Do you get a 3-2 downshift? And how do you get them to "buy back your jeep, no questions asked" as you say? What is the first step?
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One has to be patient, not get ugly, write some letters, and you must work closely and have a super relationship with your dealer owner. I had a 2002 Jeep Liberty with a vibration at 42 MPH that could not be fixed despite a lot of effort with new wheels, tires, drive shafts, etc. The regional rep called me one night out of the blue and said they were having problems with vibrations with the standard transfer case. He told me to go to any Jeep dealer and pick out a Liberty with the full time 4 wheel drive option since they did not have the vibration. I did that and actually got a new vehicle with a couple extra options and I merely paid the difference between the old Liberty and the new Liberty and I never had one bit of trouble with that vehicle. I (wife) had a 2014 GC that had a very weird ticking noise from the engine drivers side, everyone heard the noise ( most would have turned the radio up I was told and forgotten about it) and no one had any explanation, the owner of my dealership was superb and he had me write a letter to Sergio M., CEO of Chrysler, and others explaining my situation in a fair and honest fashion. it took nearly three months but everyone stayed calm (within reason) and I finally got a new GC again paying the difference between the two MSRP's, the new GC had the Lux. 2 package so I paid for that. I honestly think people on this forum and other forums loose their cool and threaten Lemmon Law, lawyer involvement, etc and that just completely screws everything up. Be honest, be fair, document everything and wait. Your dealer has the most power in the process. Should a new car have these problems, no, but does "stuff" happen, yes. I have nothing but good feelings towards Jeep and it will keep me purchasing the brand going forward. I do not work for the company nor do I have any reason to not tell the truth about my experiences. Best of luck, do not go Lemon Law, it is a joke!
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""I have had issues with two of Jeeps and in both cases they purchased the vehicles back with no question...MSRP against MSRP, how can you complain about that?""

Earlier in this thread you made the above quote. How did you go about getting them to "purchase the vehicles back with no question"?
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I am confused?! I just told you how to start the process, you are on your own fella, you have to go thru the act.
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I am confused?! I just told you how to start the process, you are on your own fella, you have to go thru the act.
How is "writing letters and waiting three months" "getting your money back with no questions asked" as you stated above? One should have to write letters to Sergio begging him to honor the basic warranty contract? Seriously?

I've already waited three months and FCA has still not honored the basic warranty. I was willing to drive all the way to Columbia SC where I purchased the lemon to get them to look at it thinking the local dealer may have screwed up the program. After a full week of trying to get an appointment there, they told me there is nothing they can do until FCA learns how to fix this mess so I'd be wasting my time. That service manager that I was finally able to talk to was as nice and professional as he could be. He acknowledged that the last software does prevent a 3-2 downshift but there is nothing he can do in his shop. Those of us that trusted the recall card have been tricked into disabling our transmissions until they can come up with something.
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