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#1 ·
....unfortunately is being pushed back to the 3rd quarter. From an excellent source. Sorry folks
 
#3 ·
Sorry would like to know if you have more info than the post below (May 11).

 
All new 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel
Production Start
•Production of the 2014 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel is currently planned to begin in Q3. Customers will still see a "Late Availability" message in marketing materials until that time.
•Dealer ordering and allocation details will be communicated closer to production start.
 
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Does anyone know why this is happening?

Late production is one thing. The reason is another. Supplier issues? Demand? Quality issues?

Anyone?
I bought a diesel a month ago and the dealer informed me that the trans is made in Germany until the US gets their trans-factory up and running. I'm sure they are having some supplier issues and it just took 2 weeks to get a deffective side mirror replaced.;)
 
#6 ·
yes....this is in addition to what pat posted. I would expect them early-mid 4th as of now. There are some issues I cant reveal. I tried to be a little optimistic with the title ad first post.
 
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#9 ·
Thanks for the intelligence gathering! Not the news I particularly wanted to hear (as one who has been waiting since last year on CRD release and ordering)...but this info let's me make a better decision for my impending purchase.

May decide to get a nice 2014 Overland 3.6L V6 right away at a group buy price...and let Jeep really work out all of the CRD production issues and dealer support issues in North America during the next few years. Trade it in 3 years or so down the road for the next-generation JGC...
 
#12 ·
Eyeballing the 2014 Durango right now.

Trying to figure out if the Hemi is required for the full 4x4 (low range selection) or if the V6 can do it as well.

Figure, I'll look at the CRD for the Grand Wagoneer in a year or two...
 
#14 ·
It's most likely that they know they can sell them like hotcakes in the overseas markets.

Plus, with petrol powered one's selling so well here... why bother shifting production around from petrol to CRD and risk sales?

Once petrol sales cool off and the market is saturated, they could look at rolling out the CRD.

Sounds like it's not just Jeep, but all Chrysler entities are getting jerked around with the CRD stuff.

/shrug

Marketing ploy to get folks in the door it seems.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Sorry "Q3" is too vague for me. Is that July 1 or Sept 15? Can't panic and assume Sept with more slippage to 4th qtr yet. Milous saw the Q3 and thought it was just to give them some wiggle room in case Late June slipped. Not much difference between late June and July 7. Could still be in line for late June early July production. I'm holding out to see what happens next month.
 
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Sorry "Q3" is too vague for me. Is that July 1 or Sept 15? Can't panic and assume Sept with more slippage to 4th qtr yet anyway. Milous saw the Q3 and thought it was just to give them some wiggle room in case Late June slipped. Not much difference between late June and July 7. Could still be in line for late June early July production. I'm holding out to see what happens next month.
Last time I got an actual Chrysler Rep's response he assured me that it would be building by July some time and that I would get some more concrete information on that later in June.

I do believe that of course there are people on here who likely have more bleeding edge info than the factory reps but I agree I think we need to see what June brings. Once the regular orders open up there will be better understanding.

Still a little frustrated :( but I had a good trip with the Durango this weekend 7 Hours driving with 6900 Pounds. I ran premium this time and it felt much better and with slightly better mileage in tow it seemed to be a wash. Still miss the Diesel Torque though!
 
#18 ·
Dismay... consternation... distress... upset... perturbation.

Resolve... perseverance... obstinacy... persistence... stubbornness.

Ah screw it... maybe I should just go get a Hemi... or not?

ARGH! :banghead:
 
#24 ·
I know I keep hearing that JNAP is "ready to build" the CRD

I don't get it...? They can build the CRD for export in the 2014 but not for here. Is there some other difference other than the SCR that makes it so hard to build for here. The RAM has SCR on on the new Diesels and DEF has been around for a few years now so I wouldn't think there would be a lack of know how.

Is there something that was discovered during the Export build that is affecting the decision to produce for here?
 
#23 ·
One would think delaying CRD availability until fall is not going to do good things for their supposed "demand exceeding expectations" comment from a couple months ago.

Not only do you have several of us that gave up on waiting, but once the summer driving season is over, gas prices drop and diesel goes up...
 
#33 ·
Wow! Somebody really screwed the pooch on that one. It's not like they didn't know EPA certification was a requirement and how long that would take....
 
#35 ·
But remember, we don't know why it has not yet been certified.

So lets not jump to conclusions about that.
 
#42 ·
Not really.

Milous said several CRD's were built, but for EPA testing as well as rapid response field testing.

Chevy was speculating it was Marketing being a bunch of dicks.

Everyone has been saying they were building them for export like gangbusters, and nothing was stopping them from building in the US (which means supply wasn't an issue) except the green light to go. Which means, it was authorization to do so (so either marketing being dicks, or some legal reason they couldn't.... enter the EPA).
 
#51 ·
Even if the EPA is the holdup, I still think it comes back to Chrysler/Jeep execs not having their ducks in a row, which other SUV companies seem to be able to do without all the drama from Jeep.

The VW Touareg TDI, the Porsche Cayenne Diesel and the Mercedes ML350 BlueTec all have similar diesel engines, 8-speed transmissions and emissions control technology to the Jeep GC CRD. Those other SUV's have EPA certification---the current VW Treg model since 2011. It shouldn't be an excuse from Jeep to not be able to get it right for EPA certification, IF that is part of the holdup.

Just saying...
 
#44 ·
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OK, we then can conclude that someone is being a real dick. Maybe it's all of the above- except Milous and Chevy. They're something different.
Let's start a class action lawsuit against the EPA and the marketing department on the grounds that we don't want them to be dicks and that our CRDs will have depreciated too much by Q4.
 
#47 ·
The fact that the diesel engine is being made for export has no bearing over the approval for sale as new vehicle OEM motor in US. If anything, you should be encouraged by the fact that the hold-up is not the assembly plant. US emission requirements are very strict, stricter than anywhere else including Europe. In the list that I hot-linked, there was also information about CARB (California Air Resources Board) and vehicles CARB-approved. CARB regulations are stricter than Federal EPA...so it's not like Jeep is delaying because they could not get a 50-state certification and tweaking the California spec vehicle.

We do not know why there is no EPA certification at this time. I do not have the time to research but if the manufacturer has already submitted the diesel for testing, there should be a public record of that. It may exist already, including a reason for a denial if that is the case. But if the car has not yet been submitted to EPA for certification, that adds more diesel fuel to the conspiracies...regarding the power plant itself.
 
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