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Old 09-18-2013, 05:30 PM
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So I did a bit of digging into the mopar stuff on my order...

Apparently, the dealer checked mopar appearance group instead of engine block heater. I asked the dealer if that is factory done or dealer done, and they still haven't figured it out (it has been nearly two weeks). Chevy says that is a dealer done thing. I sure hope he is right, because otherwise, I'll be waiting a loooong time.
I was so sure my order would get screwed up, I double checked everything like 10 times and insisted on seeing the details on the order. Until I am driving it for a few days, I'll still think something will go wrong.

Your dealer should be able to add a Block heater and should be able to remove the components of the Appearance package you want removed. And, I would ask for an additional discount 8% below invoice for instance.

So, turn the mishap into something good.
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The block heater is really just a chord. The heater is included on all GC 3.0 CRD blocks. The dealer can easily add this.

If Chevy says the extra chrome is dealer installed, it probably is....just tell them them no thanks, and to not to install it.

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Re: 2014 diesel production

In 2009 I ordered a VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI. I wanted many things that turned out to be dealer installed. The ordering had nothing to do and did not include any of the Dealer Installed Options. So if they had said they ordered the front spoiler by accident it would not have been true, and they didn't order any of the dealer installed (OEM) parts until I took delivery.

Also I know Toyota had distributor or port installed options as well; in the SouthEast you could not get a Toyota hitch on a mini van, you had to go north if you wanted a Toyota Hitch.

Jeep dealers may operate completely differently though. Regardless, there is no reason they can't make it right for you after it's delivered. If they try to make you pay for something you didn't order, you can't do business with them. If this is a friend, I think you might have said. Then they will make it right and give you 7 or 8% off invoice as well.

Also, I am curious, assuming the block heater for the CRD is just a cord. Is it the same for the other engines? The option is always $95 MSRP. I don't remember different parts for the other engines as far as after market mopar.

Even my Motorhome diesel came standard with a block heater. (It's heated with an Oil Furnace though.)

I also realized I am adding most of the mopar appearance package just not the the "Chrome Tubular Side Steps". I am adding the pedal kit and the illuminated entry guards. I am going with the Rocky Road Super Sliders for my rails
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Re: 2014 diesel production

I just read the JGC Fuel Tanks are PLASTIC? Is this true? I am sure glad I am getting the Skid plates if this is true...
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Re: 2014 diesel production

This is just not fair:

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Old 09-18-2013, 09:42 PM
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I just read the JGC Fuel Tanks are PLASTIC? Is this true? I am sure glad I am getting the Skid plates if this is true...
Interesting read on plastic vs steel tanks. They are being used in 25%-30% of vehicles for a while now.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom...rado-9607.html

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There's nothing inherently wrong with plastic tanks if they are designed right. Yes, they might split easier in an impact (not always though) but they also won't spark from an impact either. Lots of tradeoffs but if designed right they can either be an advantage or a wash.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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The block heater is really just a chord. The heater is included on all GC 3.0 CRD blocks.
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I am not really sure this is correct. If you look at the 2014 accessory brochure the Milous posted awhile back you will see that the block heater is really 2 parts the heater element that fits into the block and the cord that plugs into it (see attached pic). If the heater part was already installed I don't think they would include it with the cord. Of course the block heater for the CRD is not included in the brochure so I am not certain it is different but I would think it would be similar.
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I am not really sure this is correct. If you look at the 2014 accessory brochure the Milous posted awhile back you will see that the block heater is really 2 parts the heater element that fits into the block and the cord that plugs into it (see attached pic). If the heater part was already installed I don't think they would include it with the cord. Of course the block heater for the CRD is not included in the brochure so I am not certain it is different but I would think it would be similar.
I don't remember who (Milous or the equivilent knowledgeable) said the CRD is already installed and the cord is the only thing needed, however it was stated to be a pain to hook up.
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I just read the JGC Fuel Tanks are PLASTIC? Is this true? I am sure glad I am getting the Skid plates if this is true...
Only yours is plastic. Ours is made from titanium
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Re: 2014 diesel production

A few weeks off and this damn thread is still going... and I still haven't moved out of D1... bugger.

Anyways, I went back a few pages and called it good. Saw this sub-thread and thought I'd weigh in a bit...

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...bio diesel cuts down power and economy
Having driven more than a few oil burners in my day and run both Bio (B5, B15, B20, B50, B85, B100) and 1D/2D... you won't notice the impact.

You lose maybe 1-2MPG and the power... well, you don't notice it, you still churn out easily as much ft lb of torque as a V8.

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...if you were to run B100 on a JGC 4x4...
You will want to watch your oil levels like a hawk. In this rig, it's recommended to not go over B25, and it has nothing to do with your engine, it's the exhaust system (or rather the systems setup to clean out the DPF) that are the issue.

If you run anything higher than B25 (and even then, check your oil levels) you run the risk of hydrolock. Basically, the way the system works is post combustion, it squirts fuel into the cylinder/exhaust system. Normal diesel has a lower smoke point, and will combust (like it is supposed to). Bio, on the other hand, has a higher smoke point, and WON'T combust.

This results in the oil making it's way along the cylinder wall, and eventually into your engine oil. At this point, bad things can happen.

I'm not saying don't do it.... just be aware of it.

If you do run Bio, expect your engine to be a bit more happy though. It keeps the bits better lubricated and clean (seriously, run a couple tanks of B100 through a diesel that's never seen it before, the sheer amount of shit you will flush out of the lines (and into your fuel filter) is horrifying).
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