Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 - > 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel 3.0

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #5065  
Old 10-22-2013, 02:31 PM
Temerarius's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2009 3.7L WK
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 735
Thanks: 73
Thanked 54 Times in 41 Posts
Rep Power: 1006999
Temerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond reputeTemerarius has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2014 diesel production

Quote:
Originally Posted by mowingy View Post
For Milous/Willx:
Spent the last month since my horned horse went to final inspection rebuliding my brick front steps and wood railings which came apart due to ice buildup. Been lurking here all along. I need to know if I should find another honeydo project to hold me over and if so, how big a project should it be?
This lady can use a hand...

I suspect you will be done about the time these things actually arrive on the lots.
__________________

__________________

2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland CRD
Date Ordered: 08/10/2013
Date Delivered: Same day we get the floating skateboards from Back to the Future.
2014 Dodge Durango Citadel
Date Ordered: 08/10/2013
Date Delivered: A fiscal quarter or three before the Jeep
Function: Senior Project Manager, Skittle Stuffer, Braggart
Reply With Quote
  #5066  
Old 10-22-2013, 02:33 PM
nautiboy's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 401
Thanks: 44
Thanked 112 Times in 60 Posts
Rep Power: 1202
nautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2014 diesel production

Quote:
Originally Posted by amr40509 View Post
Just for fun - Today's answer from the dealer....

"It is my understanding that all EcoDiesels that were produced are having 100% inspected and driven on a test course for calibration of the transmission to the diesel. All are being individually inspected."
I know I'm beating a dead horse now, but as I said earlier - I think Jeep is setting themselves up for some continued lumps by handing out this line because we "know" (or at least think we know) that this isn't happening - at least not the way they make it sound. So when people get their "100% inspection, individually inspected" vehicles and find problems, it's going to be a whole different level of angry than normal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdixon04 View Post
The emissions delay doesn't really make sense to me. I just can't see how this could be something that would just pop up near the date in which these things were supposed to be released. When they decided to put a diesel in both of these vehicles, you would assume that they confirmed that VM Motori can produce a motor that meets US emissions standards. Does not compute.
Well, we do "know" that at least part of the delay was the emissions. They didn't get the CARB approval until 10/3. And reading between the lines, it sounds like Chrysler had expected a more favorable result and/or easier time with CARB than what they ended up with.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcursionDiesel View Post
If they discovered that "recalibration" = 180hp is required to pass CARB and they are now detuning all the NAFTA CRDs....ugh. This jibes with the info on VM's website.
I highly doubt that's going to happen. I suspect we're going to be getting the 240/420 that was advertised. It sounded to me (reading the CARB EO) more like they were meeting emission levels, but there were issues with the OBD2 monitors/programming/etc. If that's the case, it wouldn't require detuning to pass.

Quote:
Originally Posted by J Pillo View Post
I received an email from what I consider to be a reliable source. Here is an excerpt:

"We are awaiting clearance from the homologating body which is now expected on October 25th. This is needed prior to shipment of your car. "
This sounds like the most plausible answer we've gotten so far. Based on everything we've heard, the vehicles are "ready to go", so the fact that they're not shipping must mean there's some type of policy/decision-making that's holding it up.

Maybe the homologating body wanted to ensure the Cherokee shipping wasn't going to be too negatively impacted by the CRDs so they wanted to let the Cherokees get a head start shipping. The 13,000 or so Cherokees represent a far more significant financial and publicity issue than the 2200 or so CRDs. If I were Chrysler I certainly would be putting the priority on getting the Cherokees out vs getting the CRDs out.

And/or maybe the homologating body needs to do the final analysis of the CARB fines that are expected after the (presumed) updates were made and decide if they're within an acceptable level now and/or will be "soon enough".

And/or maybe this is just how long it takes for the "wheels to turn" after getting the CARB signoff.

Just like the theoretical monkey that could type the works of Shakespeare if he randomly typed long enough, I imagine if I just keep typing, eventually I'll hit the right answer. Although unfortunately, unlike earlier, it sounds like even if I did guess it, no one here knows enough to say it's correct or not ...

And so the waiting, and the pointless pontificating continue ....
__________________

__________________
Overland 4x4 EcoDiesel, Deep Cherry/Light Frost, ORA-II, Adv Tech

Reply With Quote
  #5067  
Old 10-22-2013, 02:41 PM
JustinB60's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 240
Thanks: 36
Thanked 33 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 1137
JustinB60 is on a distinguished road
Re: 2014 diesel production

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vtail View Post
In the big scheme of things you are of course right. However my sister-in-law's car went belly up a couple weeks ago and she was planning on buying my Murano when my jeep arrives. So for now she is borrowing my father-in-law's car until I get my jeep then she can get her "new" car. So for me it's not such a big deal except I've been waiting over a year, but for her it is affecting her daily transportation needs.
I agree and I am in a similar situation. I think for some of us this is impacting our day to day lives and our bottom line. Someone on here mentioned this slip has made it so they have to literally rent a car every time they want to drive somewhere and another person is bridging the gap via motorcycle (and it's getting pretty chilly out these days)!
__________________
Ordered 8/10/13:
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Diesel 3.0L | Luxury II Pckg | Tow Pckg | Engine Block Heater
Reply With Quote
  #5068  
Old 10-22-2013, 02:46 PM
mazster43's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 274
Thanks: 56
Thanked 52 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 71359
mazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond reputemazster43 has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinB60 View Post

I agree and I am in a similar situation. I think for some of us this is impacting our day to day lives and our bottom line. Someone on here mentioned this slip has made it so they have to literally rent a car every time they want to drive somewhere and another person is bridging the gap via motorcycle (and it's getting pretty chilly out these days)!
Or begging a ride to work now from my girlfriend..
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5069  
Old 10-22-2013, 02:46 PM
Chivvalry's Avatar
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Cranberry Twp, PA
Posts: 1,102
Thanks: 184
Thanked 133 Times in 76 Posts
Rep Power: 81099
Chivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond reputeChivvalry has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2014 diesel production

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinB60 View Post
...and another person is bridging the gap via motorcycle (and it's getting pretty chilly out these days)!
Damn skippy.

__________________
2014 GC Limited CRD Max Steel/Black LuxII ORAII RA4

11/13/13 MINE!! ALL MINE!!!



Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Chivvalry For This Useful Post:
  #5070  
Old 10-22-2013, 02:50 PM
nautiboy's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 401
Thanks: 44
Thanked 112 Times in 60 Posts
Rep Power: 1202
nautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2014 diesel production

The funny/sad/ironic thing is that back in early April when I was at one of the CJD dealerships and was talking to the salesman, i told him I was waiting for the diesel and he said "That's not going to be available until November". Inside I scoffed and laughed a bit thinking that he was either way out of touch with reality or he was just trying to push me toward the hemi.

I remember how "superior" I felt because I "knew" so much more than he did about the "real" state of things.

Yup ... I'm sooooooooo smart!
__________________
Overland 4x4 EcoDiesel, Deep Cherry/Light Frost, ORA-II, Adv Tech

Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to nautiboy For This Useful Post:
  #5071  
Old 10-22-2013, 03:03 PM
Willx's Avatar
Moderator - MOTS jr.


My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 4,884
Thanks: 529
Thanked 858 Times in 469 Posts
Rep Power: 1927052
Willx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: 2014 diesel production

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcursionDiesel View Post
It'll be interesting to see the number of miles each of our SFU's have at delivery.
Almost no miles have been put on your Jeeps. The JGC that were tested are all going to Event Solutions Groups and other Promotional positions.

Any other movements over a few miles were Truck Shuttle.

So best answer is a few more than average but not as many as one might think from the testing thing.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5072  
Old 10-22-2013, 03:12 PM
Vtail's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 548
Thanks: 19
Thanked 101 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 1420
Vtail has disabled reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivvalry View Post
Damn skippy.
Riding a motorcycle this time of year maybe you should change your name to Shivery?
__________________
Current garage/hangar:
2014 Grand Cherokee Summit EcoDiesel Cherry Red w/Jeep Brown interior
2011 John Deere 1023E diesel tractor
2009 Jetta TDI (better half's ride)
2007 Harley Softail Deluxe
1966 Beechcraft Bonanza "V-tail"
1930 Ford Model A - restoration in process
Reply With Quote
  #5073  
Old 10-22-2013, 03:23 PM
Willx's Avatar
Moderator - MOTS jr.


My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 4,884
Thanks: 529
Thanked 858 Times in 469 Posts
Rep Power: 1927052
Willx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: 2014 diesel production

Quote:
Originally Posted by nautiboy View Post
The funny/sad/ironic thing is that back in early April when I was at one of the CJD dealerships and was talking to the salesman, i told him I was waiting for the diesel and he said "That's not going to be available until November". Inside I scoffed and laughed a bit thinking that he was either way out of touch with reality or he was just trying to push me toward the hemi.

I remember how "superior" I felt because I "knew" so much more than he did about the "real" state of things.

Yup ... I'm sooooooooo smart!
Funny thing is that you were more correct in the beginning, but maybe in this case the cynicism and the jaded salesperson point of view in this case, he knew something out of pure experience.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5074  
Old 10-22-2013, 03:24 PM
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 54
Thanks: 38
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 436
jdixon04 is on a distinguished road
Re: 2014 diesel production

An update from my dealer in Delaware:

"My rep said it's supposed to be shipped around 10/31."

Keyword: around.
__________________
Current Ride: Some guy I work with (he's starting to get tired of driving me)
Ordered: 2014 Overland 4X4 EcoDiesel, Granite/Indigo Blue. ORAII, Adv Tech, Engine Heater.
Reply With Quote
  #5075  
Old 10-22-2013, 03:34 PM
nautiboy's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 401
Thanks: 44
Thanked 112 Times in 60 Posts
Rep Power: 1202
nautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond reputenautiboy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2014 diesel production

Fun fact for the day ... if my SFU ever arrives, I would be able to drive from my home here near San Francisco to my childhood home (where my parents still live) in eastern Pennsylvania, while only filling the tank 4 times and still have some oil left in the tank!

Or i could drive to the ski resorts near Denver with just 2 tanks.

Or if I get myself in a bit 'o trouble, I could be in Tijuana with just 1 tank.

That is pretty cool.
__________________
Overland 4x4 EcoDiesel, Deep Cherry/Light Frost, ORA-II, Adv Tech

Reply With Quote
  #5076  
Old 10-22-2013, 03:53 PM
kaziii's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: New Jersey, Southern
Posts: 235
Thanks: 32
Thanked 42 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 78268
kaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond reputekaziii has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2014 diesel production

Wikipedia:
In motorsports, homologation is the approval process a vehicle, race track or standardised part must go through to race in a given league or series. The regulations and rules that must be met are generally set by the series' sanctioning body.[1] The word is derived from the Greek homologeo—literally "same words"—for "agree".
__________________

__________________
2014 JGC-SFU Summit, 3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel Engine, Deep Auburn Pearl Coat, Brown Interior, Engine Block Heater
2004 Sea Ray 220 Sundeck (Bowrider) 23'
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
3.0 crd, 3.0 ecodiesel, 3.0 grand cherokee, crd, ecodiesel

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cheapest 2014 Diesel You Can Get Trailpixie Diesel Powered 2012+ Export Grand Cherokee 28 09-06-2013 11:44 PM
2014 Diesel Question JABEACHFANZ Diesel Powered 2012+ Export Grand Cherokee 34 04-10-2013 11:23 AM
2014 Diesel bootleg23 Diesel Powered 2012+ Export Grand Cherokee 27 03-21-2013 02:17 AM
2014 diesel offroad test LJS8510 Diesel Powered 2012+ Export Grand Cherokee 5 02-26-2013 10:59 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community