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Chord...cord. Hey that diesel is gonna sound like sweet harmony!
Speaking of chord...my piano finally came in earlier this week! It is one reason the crd wait has gone by the wayside this week.

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Re: 2014 diesel production

I'm thinking new hoodie or t-shirt, "Imported from Detroit" on the front and a "SFU" on the back in full color. But then again, maybe it is copyright protected. One would definitely stand out in a crowd.
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Speaking of chord...my piano finally came in earlier this week!
I can't wait to use my CRD to haul my gear to my next gig! Diesel Blues! (to the tune of Steely Dan's Deacon Blues)
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Nice to see another yard going. Now how about some love for the axle yard ...
Ok, I was waiting for someone to pick up on the pattern, but since no one did, I'll just go ahead and fill you guys in;

When cars roll out the back door, they're parked in a small lot on the plant grounds. This lot doesn't hold many cars, couple hundred maybe, but they don't stay there long, so no biggie. This is the yard that the transport company receives them from. (Van rolls in, drivers hop out.. you know the deal.)

1.) Primary storage for JNAP is Charlevoix. As stated before, most of the shipping in the region is from here. 300s, 200s, Rams, vans, etc. all pass thru Charlevoix yard. Charlevoix is primary bc it's the yard that the plant yard funnels into. And it's big. Could be bigger, but that's a different story.

2.) Secondary would be Java. More storage, but not as accessible as Charlevoix. I personally have never heard of the name "Java yard" outside of this site. And first didn't know wtf ppl here were talking about, bc I'm familiar with most all the shipping yards in southeastern MI. (Kinda like the whole "WK2" thing.) But I've since learned that this "Java" is merely the yard on the back side of Charlevoix. I've always just seen it as an extension of Charlevoix, bc it's basically on the same property. Same big fence wraps around both. However this yard COULD have been the primary back before Chrysler bought the old Budd plant which owned Charlevoix yard. I'm not sure. But that could be why it has a different name. But again, it's secondary now. Again, Charlevoix is a tad closer to the plant.

3.) Third would be Kercheval/Connor yard. Which Chrysler doesn't even own. And it's across the street. So it's not as accessible. But it's the main overflow for Charlevoix, when available. As a matter of fact I think the tracking even shows Kercheval cars as being in Charlevoix. They go back and forth. However, Cassens still owns it I believe. And they put whatever they want in there. Not as big as either Charlevoix or Java, but it holds a decent amount of cars. When Charlevoix/Java's levels are low, we put nothing in there. When they're high, we use the space they have available over there. Many times they put other manufacturers cars in there. And I think Chrysler has to pay them to use it. Hence the back and forth with Charlevoix.

4.) Fourth, would be Detroit Axle. Which is a newer one. As in the last couple years. Mainly bc there used to be a big functioning plant there. But when Chrysler (who owned DAP) decided to close it, they demolished it and said, "hey, this is a good place to store more cars!" And so now we do. DAP is about 10 minutes from JNAP.

Then you have the miscellaneous other lots/yards in the city area that Chrysler ships from, and a few more outside the city in the southeastern region. ie. New Boston, Woodhaven, Marysville, Lapeer, Carleton, Toledo even, etc, etc, etc..

Obviously some of you who've been tracking hounds for the last few months have identified each of these yards, and may have even googled them (#weird), but in order to understand what's happening, it's good to know the order of priority. AAAAAAND, why your car was staged where it was! It's not random. It's methodical and strategic. And most importantly, it's efficient.

Chiv's sticks out. On the surface. But if you knew why it went down to Woodhaven, then it wouldn't. And for obvious geographic reasons, there was no point in bringing it back. It's a south bound unit. And Woodhaven is well south of Detroit. Now, this doesn't mean it can't come back north in the next couple days and hitch a ride, but it's not likely. Woodhaven has a mass exodus coming, bc it's pretty full. And so I believe that's when Chiv's will hit the road. Or rails. With a bunch of those lil Cherokees it's made friends with.

So if you haven't KZ'd yet, fret not.. I believe DAP is next. Soon as Java clears up a bit.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Diesels owned:

No engine repairs other than an injector pump rebuild and glow plugs on the Chevy at 210k.

1978 VW Rabbit Diesel (wrecked at 210k)
1983 Chevy Suburban 6.2L (sold at 240k)
Mercedes 300SD (220k still own)
2003 Ford Excursion 7.3L (160k still own)
1965 Ford 3000 tractor (still own)
1973 Ford 4000 tractor (still own)

About half the v8 gassers I've taken past 200k have suffered low oil pressure, overheating, etc.

Anything can happen, no doubt...but reliability hasn't been an issue across several diesel motor manufacturers over the years.

My point is that most diesels are overbuilt for continuous heavy use and are made to go the distance. If you don't overheat them and change the oil and filters, they just run.

I need a warranty contract to get me through 7 years and 200k+ for the transmission, electrical gadgetry, and air suspension.
I see your problem...you didnt own any modern diesels that are restricted by EGR valves and DPFs...

Be prepared to change your intake manifold every 50K miles.
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Thanks Chevy. Great info. So are the 3 yards at/near the plant and DAP all using the rail loading at JNAP?
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I see your problem...you didnt own any modern diesels that are restricted by EGR valves and DPFs...

Be prepared to change your intake manifold every 50K miles.
I am hoping our friends from Oz with a few more miles will help us devise a method to avoid some of these potential maladies. I know the Hemi guys use a catch can mod to keep oil out of the intake.
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Thanks Chevy. Great info. So are the 3 yards at/near the plant and DAP all using the rail loading at JNAP?
The 3 JNAP yards all share those same rail loading. DAP has rail access, so the train that leaves JNAP just swings by there before/after. No need to truck cars to DAP unless for storage. Like nautiboy's. If we were shipping when his was built, it would've just went to Charlevoix and waited for the train there.
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I see your problem...you didnt own any modern diesels that are restricted by EGR valves and DPFs...

Be prepared to change your intake manifold every 50K miles.
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I am hoping our friends from Oz with a few more miles will help us devise a method to avoid some of these potential maladies. I know the Hemi guys use a catch can mod to keep oil out of the intake.
I see both you guys' points..

Pre-2007, a diesel that wouldn't easily turn 250k was an odd ball.

Post-2007, good luck reaching 250k without some maintaince. Not at 50k though.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the absolute WORST thing that's happened to the diesel industry is ULSD. Not egr. Not dpf's and regen systems. Not urea injection. It's the fuel itself. All of those other things do have secondary effects on performance and longevity. But I promise you all, the fuel has had the biggest effect.
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Chevy/Milous/Willx,

Looking at the build thread and who has gone KZ, looks like they have been picking all around mine due to similar build dates(however geographics are unknown).

I have seen two are shipping to Pennsylvania(per Milous), I would make a wild guess that we will all share a train to Buffalo(seen that in the tracking thread) before parting ways but without more specifics I am shooting in the dark.

By your guess, would all the early orders(even most of the CRD orders) clear out of the lots within the next day or two?
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the absolute WORST thing that's happened to the diesel industry is ULSD. Not egr. Not dpf's and regen systems. Not urea injection. It's the fuel itself. All of those other things do have secondary effects on performance and longevity. But I promise you all, the fuel has had the biggest effect.

How do you feel about biodiesel?
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How do you feel about biodiesel?
In a normal (read: old school) diesel engine, it's good stuff (not as efficient, but good stuff). In this engine, bad juju if you go above, about, B10/B20.

It all has to do with the way they handle the regeneration cycle in this layout. GM, if I recall, is handling it much better.
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