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Old 10-29-2013, 07:55 AM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Went to the link. Do you recommend waiting to see if we have problems, or doing this right off the bat?
I would update right away. I downloaded mine already and there are some big improvements to NAV with the quick help screens and improved VR.

There is a whole section on the 8.4 Radios in the audio visual section and I will be updating those with some more photos and information very soon.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:00 AM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Due to crooked politicians taxes on diesel in the States tends to make diesel more expensive than even premium gas... wish our price ratios were more in line with the rest of the world. Of course I DON'T wish our actual prices were as we still pay a LOT less per gallon than most.
U.S. diesel drivers pay 6 cents/gallon more taxes.
U.S. demand for gasoline has declined.
U.S. cannot export crude oil.
U.S. can export refined petroleum products.
World demand for diesel is up.
Profit margin is greatest for export diesel.
Hmm, if I'm running a refinery and a good capitalist, I'm going to reconfigure my refinery to produce less gasoline, a little more ULS Diesel for U.S. consumption (less profit margin), and a lot more export Diesel/Jet fuel.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Just a side note, I know the UConnect guy here pretty well. None of the Diesels are running the latest version. Go here to learn more

Link: http://www.jeepgarage.org/f219/uconn...tml#post905413

Even for builds that have recently happened or are going to happen? Seems silly to not have the latest software. Is it because the UConnect systems are already staged in supply for the production line and it's too difficult to update them?
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Excellent and interesting. MOTS shows you as Staged for Shipment.
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Excellent and interesting. MOTS shows you as Staged for Shipment.
I was thinking the same thing
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:10 AM
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Even for builds that have recently happened or are going to happen? Seems silly to not have the latest software. Is it because the UConnect systems are already staged in supply for the production line and it's too difficult to update them?
is there anything different with a diesel or is everything engine related displayed in the instrument cluster?
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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IMHO, when there are some around, we are going to see a massive take off and better saturation of diesel into other stuff (more vehicles and more models in those vehicles. Honestly once you have experienced driving these little 3.0 power plants, you can't go back!

I have said before, who cares that diesel is 10-15% more? That is only your long term cost factor. People don't run out and always buy the "cheapest" car, they buy the car they want! ironically, no matter what this one will start paying you back.
I guess for those who do not drive many miles it is much harder to justify if you only use gas savings. But in 5 years I usually have over 150K miles on the vehicle which is when a typical loan is paid off. In a gas vehicle you are starting to worry about how much longer you have. In a diesel I expect at least another 100K. I got rid of my last one at 286K and my main concern was everything else but the engine which still ran great and still had the original injectors in it.

Calculate vehicle depreciation using 150K for gas and 300 K for diesel and it becomes a no brainer.

Toss in the feeling of driving diesel and the cost comparison become immaterial. And now that the engines are so much quieter and do not smell well even someone who found the noise and smell objectionable have no arguments. In the clip on this thread it sounds like there is just enough diesel sounds to know it is a diesel but not so much to put off anyone.
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Awesome! What part of the country are you in?
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I've kept kinda quite on this subject but we always compare diesel to gas, but regular grade gas as a savings since the diesel is typically higher in price so there's that 10-15% difference. The largest factor for me was; I currently have to put Premium in my tank and until this week the local stations were within 5-10 cents sometimes gas cheaper and sometimes diesel cheaper. While sure it will cost more to fill the diesel gc versus the v6 or v8 gassers, the price per mile when compared to my current car isn't much different and in many cases less than my current rocket ship by going the Diesel GC route. Anyone else in a similar situation?
Same situation here. Will be saving lots of $$$ compared to what I pay now per mile. Going to love my oil burner
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