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Old 10-30-2013, 10:56 AM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

I'm kinda confused. So far 2 people have taken delivery, were MOTS shows one of them not even shipped yet, and one in transit. What gives?
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Why is that exactly? Just curious to understand the science behind it. Thanks in advance!
Here's a really good article that explains in detail the break-in process. Bottom line though, the very things that make a diesel last so long and run so efficiently are the same things that make it take longer to break in.
http://www.thedieselstop.com/content...iesel%20Engine
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I suppose this belongs in another thread, but I like this one :-) I was researching paint protection films for my new SFU. I had it done on my 2003 Murano by the dealer (actually someone they contracted to do it) and it has worked well and still looks good. I talked to a very knowledgable guy at skipchips.com in Mpls. Just thought I'd share a couple things I gleaned from him. First they use the top products on the market. I'm an old 3M guy and I didn't like hearing that although they sell 3M film its not what they recommend based on their extensive experience. They use Xpel, but he said in response (they work closely with 3M) 3M is coming out with a newer film in 6 - 12 months. Xpel has a 10 year warranty vs 5 for 3M and many other suppliers. Secondly, they laser cut the film using computerized templates rather than cutting the film on the vehicle as some do, which can damage the paint. Third, they recommend not putting any kind of wax or sealer on the paint before applying any film. Fourth, and I find this to probably be a huge difference between a quality job and some untrained person, they claybar the area where the film will be applied. According to him this makes a big difference in the long term durability of the application. Lastly I asked him how they treat the area around the Jeep emblem on the hood. He said there are two ways to do it - one is to cut out the film around it, the other way is to carefully remove the emblem (it is attached with double sticky tape according to him), put the film on then reapply the emblem on top of the film. He pushed the latter method, using a template to carefully position the emblem exactly as it was before. I have to think about that one, as the emblem is now attached to the film rather than the paint on the hood. But he said it will look much better and they have had no issues doing it this way. I'm going to have him do the front of the hood, bumper, lower facia, door handle insets and the edges of all the doors. $799. Expensive yes, but when I'm spending $50k+ on a vehicle I plan to keep at least 10 years, the annual amortization of the difference between cheaper film and a low quality install is negligible.
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I got the brown interior. I might be able to get some more shots later today when not working. The brown is awesome with the white.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:18 AM
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the very things that make a diesel last so long and run so efficiently are the same things that make it take longer to break in.
There's the science. A diesel operates with a static 16.5:1 compression. Add a turbo and dynamic air charge expansion from heat and the dynamic (running) compression may reach 22:1 or higher! The rings in a diesel must seal at these high pressures and are therefore a stronger design and take longer to fully seat. Other components also follow the same "stronger, and last longer" logic.
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Do they actually unload/load vehicles at every stop and put them on different cars or does your vehicle usually reside on the same rail car to it's final destination? The former would seem like exponentially raising the risk of damage.
Sorry, my post was attempt at a joke. I guess I did not make it obvious enough.
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After I cleaned the residual skittles from the tailpipe, she was good to go.
What exactly is this procedure? I want to make sure I have the necessary tools.

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Sorry, my post was attempt at a joke. I guess I did not make it obvious enough.
No, I got the joke. It just formed a question in my mind as to how this process works.
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What exactly is this procedure? I want to make sure I have the necessary tools.

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Careful... I think this is a PG forum and from the blush on that unicorn's face the "procedure" was a little intimate.
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I suppose this belongs in another thread, but I like this one :-) I was researching paint protection films for my new SFU. I had it done on my 2003 Murano by the dealer (actually someone they contracted to do it) and it has worked well and still looks good. I talked to a very knowledgable guy at skipchips.com in Mpls. Just thought I'd share a couple things I gleaned from him. First they use the top products on the market. I'm an old 3M guy and I didn't like hearing that although they sell 3M film its not what they recommend based on their extensive experience. They use Xpel, but he said in response (they work closely with 3M) 3M is coming out with a newer film in 6 - 12 months. Xpel has a 10 year warranty vs 5 for 3M and many other suppliers. Secondly, they laser cut the film using computerized templates rather than cutting the film on the vehicle as some do, which can damage the paint. Third, they recommend not putting any kind of wax or sealer on the paint before applying any film. Fourth, and I find this to probably be a huge difference between a quality job and some untrained person, they claybar the area where the film will be applied. According to him this makes a big difference in the long term durability of the application. Lastly I asked him how they treat the area around the Jeep emblem on the hood. He said there are two ways to do it - one is to cut out the film around it, the other way is to carefully remove the emblem (it is attached with double sticky tape according to him), put the film on then reapply the emblem on top of the film. He pushed the latter method, using a template to carefully position the emblem exactly as it was before. I have to think about that one, as the emblem is now attached to the film rather than the paint on the hood. But he said it will look much better and they have had no issues doing it this way. I'm going to have him do the front of the hood, bumper, lower facia, door handle insets and the edges of all the doors. $799. Expensive yes, but when I'm spending $50k+ on a vehicle I plan to keep at least 10 years, the annual amortization of the difference between cheaper film and a low quality install is negligible.
we are doing something similar using pro-tect film. Same areas as you but also the A pillars and side mirrors for around $900. The pro-tect film has a lifetime warranty. Might be something to look at.
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Careful... I think this is a PG forum and from the blush on that unicorn's face the "procedure" was a little intimate.
So many things could be said...better to practice safe SPC (Skittle Pipe Cleaning) especially when doing it the first time....but yes, PG is best in an open forum.
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Another local dealer has the config I'm interested in. Would it be possible to check on the VIN and see where it is at? This is not mine, but could be. 1C4RJFJM0EC333815 If this isn't allowed please let me know.

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As of Monday this as not a sold order. Anyway to get an update on where it is at?
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