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Old 07-06-2013, 01:23 AM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

August order, September production, October delivery. Too late for towing this boating season, but just in time for old man winter.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

Is this the Fuel System in the new JGC?


P.S. Cool Video...

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Bosch North America Press Release:

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The clean diesel emission system for the Jeep Grand Cherokee will be assembled at Bosch’s facility in Kentwood, Mich. As a result of this project and other targeted projects, the Bosch Emission Systems operation in Kentwood intends to secure 100 high-tech jobs by the end of 2014.

The service life listed for all of the CRS2 systems is 300,000 km or 186,000 miles.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:30 PM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Is this the Fuel System in the new JGC?


P.S. Cool Video...

Also:
Bosch North America Press Release:
Not surprising, since Fiat sold their common rail technology to Bosch.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

I think I remember they developed it. I knew the JGC CRD used a Bosch system; I am just curious if I stumbled on the exact system.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

Define "service life" of the injection system? Does this mean failure should be expected after 186k? That's a little soon in the big boy world of diesels where 250k minimum is expected life for bolt on major engine components like injection pumps and turbos. Perhaps service life is something different?

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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Define "service life" of the injection system? Does this mean failure should be expected after 186k? That's a little soon in the big boy world of diesels where 250k minimum is expected life for bolt on major engine components like injection pumps and turbos. Perhaps service life is something different?

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I believe the video I posted was wrong. It is more likely to be a CRS3-20 because of the piezo Valve on the CRS3.

Here is the CRS3-20 video:


Also here is the "PDF"

http://www.boschautoparts.com/BAP_Technical_Resources%2FDiesel%20Parts%2FCommon% 20Rail%20Systems%20CRS3.pdf


As far as the service life, I don't know. One of the reasons I posted the stated "Service life" was to get feedback. The service life stated for the CRS3 is the same as the CRS2.

FYI: PC stands for Passenger Cars.

Also some math:

If you run an engine straight out for 120 days at 65 mph, it comes out to 187k miles in that time. What we are reading may simply be the result of tests. The stated 300,000 km may be a somewhat arbitrary number.

Anyone who knows for sure please chime in...
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Define "service life" of the injection system? Does this mean failure should be expected after 186k? That's a little soon in the big boy world of diesels where 250k minimum is expected life for bolt on major engine components like injection pumps and turbos. Perhaps service life is something different?

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No Service Life is an expected time a manufacturer could technically "Warrant" that operation... longevity is not the same but should be longer.

Read this, it explains it pretty well: Service life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In theory, they are saying they could pretty well warranty it for that period as there should be no failures during that time.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

Thanks Willx for the link. Sounds like a reasonable number for an expected warranty period....not that Chrysler would be likely to warranty the injection system for that many miles unless there is a class action lawsuit over failures!

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Thanks Willx for the link. Sounds like a reasonable number for an expected warranty period....not that Chrysler would be likely to warranty the injection system for that many miles unless there is a class action lawsuit over failures!

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lol, no they won't but I think you better understand the term. In other words I don't think your expectations for longevity are wrong.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

Excellent video Commando.

I do believe this is the correct system yes.

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I believe the video I posted was wrong. It is more likely to be a CRS3-20 because of the piezo Valve on the CRS3.

Here is the CRS3-20 video:


Also here is the "PDF"

http://www.boschautoparts.com/BAP_Technical_Resources%2FDiesel%20Parts%2FCommon% 20Rail%20Systems%20CRS3.pdf


As far as the service life, I don't know. One of the reasons I posted the stated "Service life" was to get feedback. The service life stated for the CRS3 is the same as the CRS2.

FYI: PC stands for Passenger Cars.

Also some math:

If you run an engine straight out for 120 days at 65 mph, it comes out to 187k miles in that time. What we are reading may simply be the result of tests. The stated 300,000 km may be a somewhat arbitrary number.

Anyone who knows for sure please chime in...
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In regards to the Bosch common rail system model CRS. I always thought CRS stood for Can't Remember Shit.
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