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Old 07-10-2013, 04:22 PM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

Production report update - Chrysler re-issued a new report yesterday, all of the diesel models were deleted from the list .
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Ordering opens on a Friday??
Yep, that's when August order banks open.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:23 PM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Production report update - Chrysler re-issued a new report yesterday, all of the diesel models were deleted from the list .
Hah! Looks like they released it a little early.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:38 PM
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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I did not mention a particular EGT temperature since the max varies depending on whether upstream or downstream of the turbo. There are pros and cons for each but upstream will react faster and be higher overall.

For a good discussion, see here.
Good point Padgett. I edited my post to reflect "at the exhaust manifold". 1100 degrees with the thermocouple install in the exhaust manifold is fairly conservative. Depending in the plumbing to the turbo, the temps could drop 150-200 degress or more through the turbo to the downpipe. In this case, 900 at the downpipe would be the limit.

The reason EGT's are damaging is the damage on turbo's drive impeller fins from annealing due to high temperatures. It takes about 25 seconds at high EGT for this to occur. You can run a diesel above the limit safely for sudden acceleration with no risk....just don't pull a hill with a performancr tune at 80mph with a load behind you!

Bottom line, get a gauge package and drive by EGT when towing.

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Re: 2014 diesel production

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Production report update - Chrysler re-issued a new report yesterday, all of the diesel models were deleted from the list .
Guessing that's August?
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Re: 2014 diesel production

I am not sure why I am still following the Jeep diesel drama. I guess the Jeep Garage forum is more fun.
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Re: 2014 diesel production

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The stock tune, simply put, is designed to stay within the thermodynamic limits of the motor under maximum towing conditions. If you chip/tune the motor, don't tow....or install an EGT ("pyro") gauge and keep it under 1100 degrees AT THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD. Drive by EGT. To increase the thermodynamic capacity, install a larger exhaust, and free flowing intake. Other mods include a larger intercooler, water/meth injection, larger injectors.

With a reasonably mild tune providing 30% more power, there is little you can do in daily driving to damage a typical modern diesel under unloaded conditions. You CAN however damage a transmission that is marginally sized to the factory rated torque.

You guys concered with backyard tuning, etc....your fears are unfounded as long as you do the research. I've noticed several misinformed statements already. Safe tuning is nothing new to the diesel community. In a year, the new JGC CRD owners will understand more also.

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Yea I hear you but my "concern" is for people who expect 30% without ANY ADDITIONAL MODS ONLY TUNE, know what I mean? I just wanted to point out more had to be done than a simple tune, they won't/dont leave that much room "left over" in the designs these days. Just do your research and you should be good but dont just trust the website of the tuner make sure you really dig into it.
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Production report update - Chrysler re-issued a new report yesterday, all of the diesel models were deleted from the list .
Does that mean they screwed up and deleted them or does that mean they aren't coming out at all this year? Please clarify.
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Production report update - Chrysler re-issued a new report yesterday, all of the diesel models were deleted from the list .
I don't think we should read much into this. Maybe they switched August with July or something like that. I am pretty sure it was a typo, that is, they never meant to release the list that way.

Regardless, I'm comfortable getting a lifetime warranty on a HEMI®. Ordering August 9th or before if I know I can't order the diesel then.
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I am not sure why I am still following the Jeep diesel drama. I guess the Jeep Garage forum is more fun.
I'll still be following it if I buy the HEMI®. If I didn't need to tow the thing behind my motorhome, I would've taken your route to the porsche dealer. Although I probably would've taken one off the lot; they have 9 diesels on the lot right now. (Reeves Porsche)
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Also, Chrysler told me the Service Contract covers rental cars even for regular maintenance. Only one guy at Chrysler told me this though. So, check my facts.
Not for regular maintenance as far as policy is concerned but certainly there are dealers who will pick it up if you need to get a bunch of stuff done.
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Not for regular maintenance as far as policy is concerned but certainly there are dealers who will pick it up if you need to get a bunch of stuff done.
I thought this but the guy at Chrysler insisted rental cars were also covered for regular maintenance. That is why a passed it on.

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