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....unfortunately is being pushed back to the 3rd quarter. From an excellent source. Sorry folks
 
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This is typical of manufacturing lubricants (tube bending mandrels, milling machine cutting fluids etc) that are being burned off when the engine is hot. First short trip at freeway speed should cure that. My Factory order Subaru WRX had the same smells at first and it's got 140K and still ticking. ;)
 
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Anybody seeing movement with the trains?
 
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I wonder if I was in the holdup. I haven't moved in several days either. Congrats to everyone that have KZed and are beginning to get their steeds. I just had the dealer order the skid plates and the side steps. Hearing the Audi story is awful. Good luck for all the deliveries.
 
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Another local dealer has the config I'm interested in. Would it be possible to check on the VIN and see where it is at? This is not mine, but could be. 1C4RJFJM0EC333815 If this isn't allowed please let me know.

Thanks!
So long as the one you found is not spoken for, and it's not more, than, say, 150 miles away, you should be good.

For instance, the same Bremerton dealer is brining up a 14 Durango for a friend of mine from OR.

But, to do this, you will need to sign the PO and be *damn* sure you want it.
 
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Does the ZF8HP transmission in our CRDs have a Thermal Management Unit that uses a coolant/oil heat exchanger to keep the transmission oil temp at a constant temperature? I've searched the forum for the answer with no luck. It's part of the research I'm doing to determine whether I want to tow a 7200 lb trailer with the Jeep or continue using my Duramax p/u.
 
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Does the ZF8HP transmission in our CRDs have a Thermal Management Unit that uses a coolant/oil heat exchanger to keep the transmission oil temp at a constant temperature?
I would be shocked if it doesn't. I haven't owned an auto transmission vehicle without a submerged cooler. Also, the towing package includes additional cooling capacity, whatever that means.
 
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Does the ZF8HP transmission in our CRDs have a Thermal Management Unit that uses a coolant/oil heat exchanger to keep the transmission oil temp at a constant temperature?
It does, and it does more than keep the tranny cool. The tranny is so efficient it actually has an auxiliary heater. See attached image.
 

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Uh oh....my SFU detoured. Next stop was most likely Louisville KY. Instead it stopped in Superior Blds, OH. Anyone know what the "Lima-bshop" location is?
Lima bshop is code for a body shop in Lima, OH about 80 miles southwest of Toledo. It's where the transit company takes vehicles that were damaged during load or unload. Its going to be day two. - there is an Audi C7 in line before you. lol
 
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Hey Chevy, can you please go find out who put the last hold on our Jeeps and bitch slap them for me.
Thanks
 
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Departed Facility 10/30/2013 12:03 AM EDT Avi - Vls Charlevoix Yard, MI


ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING
 
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I want to first of all say that I am a diehard Jeep grand Cherokee fan. If I were to count them up I think I've owned at least eight brand new Jeep grand Cherokees from the Laredo to limited to Overland to overland summit to a diesel to the mother of all jeep grand Cherokee's the SRT. I almost feel bad saying this but I did own a brand-new 2007 Jeep grand Cherokee diesel limited. I run the Freightliner dealerships in Arizona and can honestly say I am a die hard diesel engine fan. Never in my life have I owned a car that had so many problems that people who knew me made fun of the fact that I owned a car that broke down so much if I ever moved I better be close to jeep dealership. I certainly hope jeep has done a better job with is this engine then the one I had in my 2007. All I can say is I made 100% loyal jeep fan and I would never dare try another diesel engine in this product. That being said I have owned at least five grand Cherokees after the 2007 diesel engine version. Buyer beware!!!!!!!!!!! If anyone has questions I'd be more than happy to speak to someone. My cell phone number is 623–217–4202

James
 
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...Warning from a loyal Jeep man...
Jimmy, I feel you my man.. And I wouldn't even stop with that model. All that pre-2010 stuff was garbage. A lot of ppl here stuck it out and stayed with the brand, but what I know as a mechanic is that ALL Chrysler's were the biggest headaches in the flippin world. Again, WERE.. So yes, I understand your point, but here's why you're wrong;

1.) As a Freightliner man, I'm sure you know that things can change. If I told you how many times Classic XL's have shaken me down the interstate, with their awful ride, I assume you'd be quite apologetic. And prolly have heard all the Freightliner horror stories. But Freightliner has come a long way. I'm still a Kenworth man myself, but I do give credit where it's due.. and Freightliner is no longer the least of the pack.

2.) There is nothing from the failed Daimler-Chrysler CRD mishap being carried over here. Nothing. And the R&D that went into that pos, or lack thereof, is exactly why this model wasn't launched sooner. Although some ppl actually liked that thing, it's well known and accepted to have been a failure. Which is why bringing a diesel back was such a tough sell. Lots of skeptics INSIDE the company that had to be won over by the idea. And had it not been for this partnership/takeover, it wouldn't be happening.

I could go on, but I think you get the point. Things have changed. Personally QC isn't where I would like to see it, but it's vastly improved! I've said that a million times here. And the technology in all the stuff ChryFi puts out is second to who?.. So again, I (we) respect your concern, but weigh the facts and the all the variables of the equation. You'll find that none carry over from the past. :thumbsup:
 
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Status changes, but location doesn't......sigh. Still sitting in yard. Delay, delay, delay.... won't it ever go away!

SF :confused:
 
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James,

To add one further note to Chevy's excellent post. From a Mercedes owner of an ML from which the infamous power plant came out of, I knew to avoid those things even in the ML. by 2009, that entire line of engines basically was completely reworked.

There are lots of people who got on with them fine but many who had the issues (and oil leaks) that you speak of. The VM Motori shares nothing with the engine you speak of.
 
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Just hoping our SFUs make the next train outta town... Keep your fingers crossed and maybe we both get KZ today.

 
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James, I agree with you about that engine. I had that engine in a Mercedes E Class I ordered...great car with a horrible powerplant. Constantly in the shop. Finally got rid of it at the end of the warranty period. Good riddance.

Like many here who've ordered the 2014 JGC with the VM Motori-built powerplant, I've done my research. The fact that Gale Banks Engineering is developing a MILSPEC variant of the engine speaks volumes about its ruggedness and reliability.

I am confident that this will not be a repeat of my previous diesel experience.
 
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Is it possible that the few left at JS waiting for KZ status has to do with the mode of transportation.? My final destination is close to Toledo, so I would expect that I would go directly on a carrier. Possibly they are only loading all rail cars first, then go to road car carriers? Any others stuck in JS'ers out there -are your final destinations close relatively close to Detroit?
 
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Update on fuel economy.
I haven't put too many kms on my beast yet. After I filled the tank at 40km I observed the average rating and was pleased to see average hovering around 9.8. Then, with more stop'n'go traffic and letting it idle for people to hear, the average has crept up. The attached pic was taken about an hour ago. On the highway at 100km with just me in the car and on a straight level stretch , instant fuel economy displayed 5-7 litres/100km. I had it in EconoMode. I think once it gets a few thousand kms on it, I'll see it achieve advertised rating.
 

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On the highway at 100km with just me in the car and on a straight level stretch , instant fuel economy displayed 5-7 litres/100km. I had it in EconoMode. I think once it gets a few thousand kms on it, I'll see it achieve advertised rating.
Diesels will meet EPA ratings from day one. They will improve from there. It should be settled in by 45km (30k miles) and exceed ratings.

I would love to here what she does on flat ground at 100kmh and 120kmh. Keep us posted.
 
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This made me laugh. Thanks Shannon, needed that today!
Man, you guys are good with the pics.
Good luck Chiv!
 
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For all of us who're going to (hopefully) take delivery of our diesels soon, is there anything in the car we should get updated? I know the uconnect is not the latest version and can be updated (going to do that myself).

Anything else? TSBs, etc. that needs to be performed by the dealer? I'd like to ask my dealer to do all that stuff before I take delivery but need a little guidance. Thanks!
 
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