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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

It might be better to see how Chrysler/Jeep responds rather than the dealership. It doesn't sound as if that dealership has a clue on what to do and is looking to profit off of the situation.

Rather than try to kill Jeep sales of the CRD GC, it might be best to see if they'll step up and fix the issue first. So far, we've only heard what the dealership said, not Chrysler/Jeep. Those are two different corporations. Once he gets a fuel sample tested, he can call Chrysler direct and ask for their response.


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I wasn't aware B85 could cause such issues, thought it just meant an increased maintenance schedule on a few areas.
Biodiesel Fuel Requirements

A maximum blend of 5% biodiesel meeting ASTM specification
D975 is recommended for use with your diesel
engine. If frequent operation with Biodiesel blends are
greater than 5% but not greater than 20% (B6–B20) is
desired, the maintenance schedule is subject to shorter
intervals.
The oil and filter change along with fuel filter replacement
is subject to shorter intervals when operating your
engine on biodiesel greater than 5%. Do not use biodiesel
greater than 20%.

For regular use of biodiesel blends greater than 5% but
not greater than 20% (B6–B20) it is important that you
understand and comply with these requirements. Refer
to the “Maintenance Chart” in the “Maintenance Schedules”
section for further direction.
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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

Should that have been E85, which is an Ethanol Blend with 15 percent gasoline?

B20 is the highest Bio-Diesel Blend I've seen at any regular pump.
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Just came back from dealer. They are denying warranty work. They changed 1 injector and it didn't solve the problem. They have to change more injectors @ $1000 + labor each ,drop the tank and purge the fuel system and then try to start with fresh fuel. Oh ,
and that work is not guaranteed to solve the problem.
How come you put one injector and you try to see if the problem is fixed (since the only way to find out is to start the engine) without draining the fuel if you suspect fuel contamination? Did they want you to pay for the injector they damaged trying? Seems like this dealer does not know much about this engine any way since they do over the phone diagnostic.
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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

I called chrysler today explained the situation. They where sticking to the dealer story that the fuel is contaminated and they are not responsible for repairs.
Heads up to all ecodiesel owners
Before you take your jeep in for service make sure you have your fuel tested for contamination.
Still waiting for a bill for the parts changed so I can take it to another dealer


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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

Watching this thread (and those related to the flimsy DEF injector) closely before I decide to order a 2015. I've owned diesel vehicles for many years and always keep receipts for my fuel just in case an accusation like this comes up. If you didn't misfuel, then it's between the gas station and the dealer to figure out. Gas stations carry insurance for this kind of stuff.
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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

It's down to the dealers contaminated diesel fuel assessment, Chrysler's acceptance of that determination, and your fuel lab test.

You have a 50/50 chance of disproving the dealership report.

If you have a clean fuel test report in writing, it's back on Chrysler/Jeep. If not, time to call your insurance company. They may want a fuel test as well. Either way, given the same circumstance, I'd want to know if I had contaminated fuel or not.




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I called chrysler today explained the situation. They where sticking to the dealer story that the fuel is contaminated and they are not responsible for repairs.
Heads up to all ecodiesel owners
Before you take your jeep in for service make sure you have your fuel tested for contamination.
Still waiting for a bill for the parts changed so I can take it to another dealer


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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

I would get a sample from the tank and a sample from the fuel filter area. Fuel filter area will have a higher water content because it is doing is job but that is the last stop before the engine. If no E85 or B85 there then none went into the injectors/engine.
If it was a mistake of putting in the wrong fuel. Then you might dump the bad mix. Change fuel filter. Add fresh diesel with a lot of diesel fuel additive. Change fuel filters again in a few hundred miles and add more diesel additive.
I know F-250s that have come back from the dead doing that.
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I would get a sample from the tank and a sample from the fuel filter area. Fuel filter area will have a higher water content because it is doing is job but that is the last stop before the engine. If no E85 or B85 there then none went into the injectors/engine.
If it was a mistake of putting in the wrong fuel. Then you might dump the bad mix. Change fuel filter. Add fresh diesel with a lot of diesel fuel additive. Change fuel filters again in a few hundred miles and add more diesel additive.
I know F-250s that have come back from the dead doing that.
Good luck.
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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

Update.
I got no help from dealer and chrysler I had to get my insurance involved.


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Re: 2014 ecodiesel in shop

As a new owner of EcoDiesel, this story was disheartening. I think get the fuel tested at a lab. Seems like that bit of knowledge will really help determine next appropriate course of action.
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I thought we would have at least heard that the OP had the sample in hand. Something just isn't kosher about this situation.

I buy only from branded dealers, usually the same one in my home town, and I print and keep every receipt.

On at recent trip through Louisiana, there was a vacuum truck parked at the tanks, and the attendant said "it will be a few more minutes before you can get fuel". I immediately drove another 100 miles down the highway. Apparently, heavy rains the day before was the reason. How many filled up there in route to who knows where before that was fixed.

Especially when traveling, KEEP RECEIPTS until the next fill or two.


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