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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

You may need the funnel for the DEF also depending on where you are when you need to add it. Be careful getting the fluid on the paint.
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

Okay, took the family on a trip to Dollywood 2 weeks ago (first real trip in the GC). It was about 400 miles one way and all interstate. Like a DA, I didn't reset or record the mileage before we left. I guess I was a little excited. Coming home we got 30.6 mpg even with 1-1/2 hours of single digit driving. I am pretty impressed. ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1402877414.369592.jpg


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On my 260 roundtrip to Big Bear I averaged 26.2 and that included a pretty good climb up Cushenberry Grade. Sunday I did have the MIL Malfunction light on the dash come on at highway speeds as the vehicle was warming up. I noticed later that the resume on the cruise control would not function and I got a ACC/FCW Unavailable Service Required message on the EVIC. I took the veh. to the dealer an hour ago and she hooked up the device and said that it was emission related according to the machine. I made an appt for thurs and told her that I would mention the cruise control issue and message on EVIC in a note for the record. She said that they would reflash it with all of the upgrades too. Hope all works out well. I have really been enjoying the diesel and the mileage for the first 3,500 miles.
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I had the oil changed at 4042 miles at OC Jeep in Costa Mesa. Prices came down on the oil @$6.09/qt. and $39.60 for the filter; labor was $25.00. Then I headed to Moab, Utah - about 1800 miles total, including about 100 miles off pavement on some mild trails over 4 days. Overall mileage was 26.5 average including the off road portion. While on the trails I ran, the average was around 18 or so according the the VIC (yes, I've read the threads about VIC accuracy, and no, I didn't calculate it otherwise ).

This was on Bartlett Wash:


and esports16 and I at our lunch stop at the top of La Sal Pass:


Overall, it performed as a stock GC should, and as my '97 ZJ did when it was stock, with a couple of major exceptions. First, the airbag suspension in OR2 mode is very hard, making progress slower than I could do in the ZJ. It really pounded me, and made popping sounds all along the way. In OR1 which I used whenever I didn't need the extra inch of clearance, it was noticeably "softer" and therefore bearable.

Second, the IF and IR suspension doesn't have much travel, so I lifted front or rear tires several times on really mild rocks or ruts, but with the rear ELSD in "rock" mode it kept on going, so for the level of difficulty of those trails, it did fine. I probably could have taken a different line, but that wouldn't have been fun.

I used low range most of the time with the 3.0 and the drive by wire throttle - that made it much smoother to gradually accelerate & feather the throttle over rocks and ruts. Also, I didn't need to use the brakes as much, and with this one, there can't be any brake/throttle combo like in the ZJ (it apparently messes with the computer).

We had a couple of steep descents, one on rutted, powdery red dirt and the other on loose rocks. I was in low range and used the hill descent and paddle shifters, and had to give it throttle in 1st gear to keep moving; it would come to a stop if I took my foot off the accelerator - that feature really worked!

I aired down the GY Duratracs to around 25 lbs., which was enough for the trails I ran. They performed flawlessly on the road and off.

So, the Summit is fairly capable for mild off roading, but I did scrape the paint on one side of the lower fascia a couple of times .

On Saturday, Esports15 with his Overland gasser tackled Dome Plateau, a medium difficulty trail:



Definitely makes it easier to do that with the removable lower panel. And after looking at his, I think I can modify mine to be removeable - at least I'm going to give it a try later this summer.

EDIT: the rock stacking was from Easter Jeep Safari.
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

I picked up my Diesel 4x4 Limited a month ago and I've now got 3800 miles on it. It has Lux, uconnect w Nav, Tow and Blu-ray packages.

Very happy with the powertrain. My take on it is best summed up with two words, substantial and effortless.

It does feel like a solid chassis and powertrain. I haven't done any towing yet but it feels like it wouldn't have a problem with it.

Just returned from a trip to Texas where some of their on-ramps are shorter than I'm used to. Merging with traffic was effortless. The Transmission quickly found the right gear and the power surged until I was at the speed I needed.

The ventilated seats with the Lux package are nice, I put some long hours in during hot weather and it does make for a comfortable ride.

This is the first vehicle I've had with nav. I'm very happy with the guidance, the large screen and while not perfect the 10mph over warnings are handy to have. I'm still looking for a way to halt guidance temporarily when I need to make a quick detour. It does get old listening to "recalculating" messages every couple of minutes until I get back on the pre-set route.

I'm happy with the ride, drive, as well as the interior and exterior appearance (black exterior with light color interior).

Fuel economy has been better than I expected. It does really well in the 60-70mph range (around 30mpg) but once you go above 75 it drops pretty quickly. My commute is primarily 65mpg freeway with a bit of city driving thrown in and I'm seeing 27-28mpg... which I feel is good for a vehicle of this size and capability.

The shifter is different. It has a positive feel to it but I'm having a hard time accurately transitioning into reverse and drive, even after a month of use.

I came from a Chevy Cruze Diesel (another VM motori diesel design) and one little nicety I miss from that car is that when you set the cruise control it displayed what MPH the cruise was set to. This was especially handy when using the resume feature.

Overall I feel I got the equivalent of a diesel German luxury suv at a 10 grand (or more) discount. Plus, it's a jeep.
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

12,000 mile review.
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Picked this Jeep up in late December.

First oil change, 5600 miles, second oil change, 11,000 miles.

So far so good. no issues at all. Worst tank avg is 23 mpg, all city driving. Best tank was 37mpg coming from Sparta WI. Cruise set at 63. Wife was driving the Jeep, I was driving a 91 BMY Harsca M923A2 5 ton cargo truck. 570 mile trip. She got 37...i got 8.

No issues with Uconnect
No rattles

Only dislike I have is that it's not a tow pig at all. Needs 4.10's for that. Just bought a Ram 3500 Cummins/Aisen combo so that is not a concern anymore.

VERY impressed with build quality. Only thing i had to adjust was exhaust tips.

It's funny when the truckers see me in the diesel lane getting DEF.

BIG DISLIKE.

No parts stores have anything for the eco diesel. No oil/fuel. Air filters.

I get my oil from my local dealer at 6.99 a quart and oil filters for 29.00.
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

I filled up with DEF at a truck stop, I pulled into one of the big rig lanes where they sell DEF from the pump (under $3/gal). The attendant came on the speaker asking if I was at the right pump/looking for gas. I told him I was filling up with DEF, he didn't seem to understand why I would be doing that. I repeated I needed diesel exhaust fluid and he OK'd my credit card at the pump. Apparently I was the first non-truck vehicle to come thru the pumps looking for DEF.

Outside of his confusion the process was painless.
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12,000 mile review.
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Picked this Jeep up in late December.

First oil change, 5600 miles, second oil change, 11,000 miles.

So far so good. no issues at all. Worst tank avg is 23 mpg, all city driving. Best tank was 37mpg coming from Sparta WI. Cruise set at 63. Wife was driving the Jeep, I was driving a 91 BMY Harsca M923A2 5 ton cargo truck. 570 mile trip. She got 37...i got 8.

No issues with Uconnect
No rattles

Only dislike I have is that it's not a tow pig at all. Needs 4.10's for that.

Just bought a Ram 3500 Cummins/Aisen combo so that is not a concern anymore.

VERY impressed with build quality. Only thing i had to adjust was exhaust tips.

It's funny when the truckers see me in the diesel lane getting DEF.

BIG DISLIKE.

No parts stores have anything for the eco diesel. No oil/fuel. Air filters.

I get my oil from my local dealer at 6.99 a quart and oil filters for 29.00.
I agree with your comments. I have the same rig and the lack of different approved oils irritates me. Jeep carries Penz Euro L only right now. My buddy owns an oil change business and the filters are down the road a bit and he carries no oil for the Jeep diesel. I do question the 7,400 towing capacity. I think that a 7K lb trailer behind a JGC uphill in 110 degree heat would have a problem. My temp gauge rises a little up a 23% grade on a hot day with nothing behind it. I'm at 4K miles and still at 42% oil life left.
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We just arrived in Palm Springs after an almost 1300 mile drive from Texas. Speeds from a minimum of 65 to 75mph always on ACC but set mostly at 70. On the flat, we regularly saw 31mpg and our total trip average was 27.6......this is one great vehicle .

Did first oil change at 6560, just before we set off on the trip. I reset the oil monitor and its now showing 88 percent on the EVIC. We have had zero issues with this vehicle from new.......we love it !
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Well we just hit 4,500 miles coming home from BB today in 103 degrees temps with the A/C on high. The oil life shows 37% so it will probably not make 10K before the first oil change. Ran well and averaged 24.5 mpg for the 281 miles on the tank.
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Return from Deming, NM. 90 miles at 75mph, hit El Paso morning traffic (at 60/65mph) then 30miles at 75. East of El Paso, we hit the 80mph zone on I-10 and did 420 miles at 80mph cruise using ACC. We averaged 24.8mpg...awesome!
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