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Old 11-11-2013, 07:11 AM
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

Great Breakdown Brainstormer!!!

Always nice to see the dealer side stripped out... sometimes that effects overall impression but I am happy to see it judged separately.
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

I had planned to pick mine up today (Nov 11) but Saturday afternoon I felt the itch so bad that I left the football tailgate party I host for home games as soon as the game started, packed up my trailer of tailgate stuff, dropped it off, and went to pick up my Jeep.

Delivery: Everything went smoothly there. The DEF tank was only 80% full, but I knew that. I talked to the dealer on Friday evening and he told me it would be topped off for my scheduled pickup on Monday but they didn't have enough on hand to fill it until then. They put in what they had. The truck looked good, I'd rate it as 90% clean. The interior still needed a little cleaning but I was picking it up early (called an hour before I showed up saying I was on the way).

Fit/Finish: No problems here. The rear hatch isn't 100% exactly aligned...but not like some of the pictures I've seen on here. Its not enough that anyone, ever, will notice. Everything else looks great. It has exceeded my expectations here.

Driving: It took about 20 miles for me to get used to the engine/transmission. But I absolutely love it. There does seem to be a bit more 'lag' in eco mode then when it off. For my mixed rural/city driving so far (about 130miles) I haven't liked eco, and have spent about 80% of the time in "Drive with Eco Off" with the other 20% split between "Eco" and "Sport". I decided I wasn't going to even look at mileage until after the first tank. First impressions - very smooth and the torque is "always there"

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DEF - I picked it up with 80% showing (dealer said to bring it by to fill anytime). Last night I backed it up my steep driveway and parked it 'nose down" since I need to run my tailgate party trailer back out to my farm and temporally have taking up the Jeep's space in the garage (my HOA would be on me if I parked the trailer outside overnight). This morning it was showing 100% DEF during my 10mile drive to work. Either: 1) The sensor is wrong or 2) the sensor is in the front of the tank and the way I parked gave it a false reading at start-up and didn't pull a new level during the drive. I have it parked in my flat office parking lot today, I will see what it does later.

Child Seats - I haven't heard much mention on this forum about them, but I have 2 kids and have set up the Jeep for two child seats. My 2 month old rides rear facing in Chicco Keyfit seat (base in center position in the back seat, using seat belt to secure it). This seems to work out great so far. Jeep does allow the rear facing seat (per the manual) to touch the back of the front seats. It will do this if they are far back, but not too badly. Great fit. My 2.5 year old rides in a Sunshine Kids Radian XPSL (same seat is sold under the Diano brand now since they bought them out last year) forward facing. This would fit well on either side in the back, but I happen to have it on the passenger's side only because it works better with our garage layout. I'm confident you could use 3 across in the Jeep....but I sure don't plan to ;-)
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This is a preliminary review because I really have not had a chance to drive my new Grand Cherokee enough to provide justice to its great attributes.

As said by others, my very first impression is WOW...
Great review even though it's preliminary, as you indicated. Was also good to hear your impressions of the dealer, which I wanted to ask about - did you and Shannon speak with the same dealer rep? If so, would you mind telling me who that was? They have one in transit that I'm particularly interested in. PM me if you don't want to post that info here. TIA, and enjoy that beautiful ride!

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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

I have posted my review already after my initial couple of days, but I have found some more things since. I've had my Diesel Jeep GC Overland for a little less than a week ( I picked it up November 5th).

Exterior - 9/10
I do not have the tail light fit issue, but did notice the headlamp fogging a bit. I will be showing that to the dealer. The overall look of the Jeep is awesome. I love it. I am really happy. I am 8 1/2 months pregnant and really like the setting that lets the JEEP down and moves the seat/steering wheel when I put it in Park. It helps me out a lot! My fuel door fit is terrible. The dealer has ordered a new part and it needs to be painted and fixed. I understand how the fit issues happen at a factory and it's no big deal to me to have the dealer fix it - things happen during launch of a new vehicle.

Interior - 9/10
I love the finish and contrast stitching in the dash, the IP and the large touch screen. I like the fact there is a place for my sunglasses (don't laugh, having someone design a place for everything is important and shows attention to the customer IMO), and I am just figuring out all my personalized settings. I also really like the blind spot alarm - it works really well. VR is taking some getting used to, and the text option is awesome. Got to tell my Jeep to text daycare that we were running late. Very cool. I do have a 'water stain' on the driver's side dash by the a-pillar that looks bad. The dealer has ordered a new dash pad. More to come there. I'm a bit worried about that repair being done post production. I also am running UConnect 13.33.7 vs. 13.38.52 so the dealer will update that when my Jeep is in for the other repairs. The main thing I've noticed from running that version is that Navigation has no idea where my Jeep is on the map - it bounces around and recalculates ALL THE TIME. I think it recalculated about 20 times on the way to Birch Run while we were simply driving north on 75. Annoying - yes, but fixable. Otherwise I am extremely happy and love the inside fit/finish and functionality.

Overall ride: 10/10!! Don't judge because I'm a girl….my husband has a 2010 RAM diesel (1 ton crew cab) and I drive the hell out of it. I just can't park it. So the diesel JGC was my solution. I can get the feel of a truck, actually park it, and also get the quietness of the cab and suspension comfort I need (I commute 70 miles round trip daily for work and conduct a lot of conference calls via blue tooth). It has the get up and go I need for dealing with the idiot drivers on I75 and the fuel economy I need to not break the bank. I am really, really, really happy. Fist tank of fuel got me 27 mpg. I'm good with that for the first tank and driving a mix of city and highway. I know it will get more stable once everything is broken in.

Thank you Jeep - JNA for the great truck and thank you Jeep Garage for the great feedback on this site!!
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:34 AM
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You can't get a reading on a tank of gas if your vehicle goes more than 300 miles before empty because only the 300 newest miles are used with the older miles being dropped off continuously Your average shown can never be more than the last reset up to 300, that's the complaint. If you have a full size truck with a Cummins depending on the year/options it isn't even capable of tracking average mileage for a half of a tank. Please keep in mind I'm saying this is true IF it hasn't changed in the last couple of years. I personally use a phone app called My Car to track my millage using real math at the pump with all my vehicles.
Does anyone know if EVIC still uses the 300 mile limit to calculate mileage?
If so, I'm going to have to fire up an app to track it.
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:26 PM
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

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Does anyone know if EVIC still uses the 300 mile limit to calculate mileage?
If so, I'm going to have to fire up an app to track it.
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I have not gone over 300 miles yet, but each trip meter provides average fuel efficiency. With that, you can play with different scenarios and learn where the sweet spots are or where it drinks the most fuel.

I would hope there is not a limit to 300 miles. During my first tank, my fuel range has floated 300-400 miles. It is as if the computer does not yet know what that number should be. The more I drive, the higher the range, but only slightly. Once the first tank is emptied, I expect the range to reflect 700 mile range or the calculated tank average. If the second tank still reflects a 300-400 mile range, then perhaps the limitation is applicable. That would be shame, but it would seem to be a relatively easy software fix. Maybe the export guys can give us a clue. Has anyone filled tank twice?
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From what I read many times here the light buckets fogging is normal and will go away once used more times.
Appreciate the feedback...
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

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Here is some pics of my Limited 4x4 CRD in Maximum Steel Metallic after I applied the first layer of Zaino wax.





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Beautiful ride. I am anxious to get mine ordered...
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Ah, another Zaino person, takes forever to do it right, but once done there is nothing like it!
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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

I posted these photos in the diesel production thread, so sorry if you're seeing them twice.

This review will be really brief - I'll have a much more detailed version after I've had some time with it.

Vehicle as delivered: Generally excellent. There were no fitment issues that I could find. The condition of the vehicle was a little grubby - oil prints all over the driver's door, scuff marks on the driver's door, scuff marks on the wood trim on the passenger side, carpeting pulled up in one spot. But that all looked to be "post line" stuff (shipping, mechanics, etc.). The only "real" issue I found was the rubber seals around the windows were folded, pulled and well, kind of messed up.

Vehicle after PDI: Excellent, though DEF was not topped up. The dealer cleaned up all of the grime, scuffs, etc. They also tried to do something about the window seals, though they still don't appear to be right. He said if I still have issues with it after I've had it for a bit, bring it back and they'll replace them. The DEF was not topped up by the dealer even though I told him that it was part of the PDI. He said that Chrysler doesn't reimburse for any fluids and he said that if filling the DEF was part of the PDI then they would have done it. I told him what Willx said about Chrysler reimbursing 2.5 gals, and he basically just shrugged. I didn't feel like making a deal out of something so small, so I just dropped it. I'll buy some DEF and fill it up in a bit.

I'd like to reiterate again how great everything looked after the dealer cleaned it up. Other than the window seals, I couldn't find a single thing wrong - no paint issues, all joints and seams looked good, tail lights looked good, lift gate and lift gate handle looked good .... I may find something after I spend more time with it, but it sure looks damned good to me so far

The ride home was awesome. This unicorn has some giddy-up-and-go! I didn't flog 'er, just drove it on the freeways and through traffic as I normally would and it moves really well for a 5,000lb vehicle!

I'll say it again - I can't believe how quiet the diesel is. In the cabin it's really quiet, but what amazed me more was how quiet it was standing next to it.

Transmission was smooth as butter, worked great, although I still haven't gotten the hang of the electronic shifter. I was constantly missing the position I wanted. I'm sure I'll adapt, but for today: Shifter 1 Nautiboy 0.

Tried the ACC ... O M G ... so awesome. It worked much better than I expected. I was on everything from 5 lane freeways with lots of traffic, to 2 lanes moving reasonably. I just left it on virtually the whole time and it did everything damned near perfectly. I was even impressed how aggressively it accelerated when I moved from a crowded lane to a more open lane. It even started the acceleration before I had moved into the lane. After putting on the turn signal and starting to move over, it started to accelerate right away.

Blind-spot detection worked quite well. Haven't decided yet whether I'll keep the chime on.

My phone paired no problem. Tried tuning the radio with voice control and that worked just fine. Navigation system worked well too, and periodically notified me when traffic backups were up ahead.

The audio is good for what it is, but you're not going to mistake it for a top-end system.

All-in-all it's everything I dreamed it would be. Now let's just hope my review doesn't change after a couple weeks.











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