Same as my last thread, just looking for owner's reviews their new NAFTA EcoDiesel GC so far. I won't bother adding the poll to this one bc I'd like to see the ratings in you guys' posts. Keeps the responses legit, and cuts down on voter fraud.
So as you all take delivery, drive it around for a lil bit (few days maybe), then let me know what you think.. 1-to-10 format.
Ex. This JEEP is a 'HEEP' of sh!t....... 1-10, I give it a 0. Oh wait, it cost me $50k! Make that a -5.
or..
This thing is awesome!!! I couldn't be happier....... 1-10, I give it a 10!
Or something in between.. You get the point. Thx guys and gals. I can't do TOO much about what you guys' concerns are, but some of the ppl up the ladder who browse these threads can, so let em hear it. And again, thx for your purchases and hanging in there despite all the setbacks. :thumbsup:
The Houston dealer sells a whole lotta Jeeps. Low price, high volume.
I have found a local dealer that is pricing some of their GCs at about 3% below invoice. I may be able to negotiate them lower. If so, I'll be glad to buy locally. If not, there's always Texas.
The Houston dealer sells a whole lotta Jeeps. Low price, high volume.
I have found a local dealer that is pricing some of their GCs at about 3% below invoice. I may be able to negotiate them lower. If so, I'll be glad to buy locally. If not, there's always Texas.
To understand by DC and Houston can sell JGC for what they do I spent time with a moderate volume JGC dealer who sells 300/ mo. What the sales manager told me is that those dealers must sell well past 1000/ mo which Jeep provides incentives to allow them to make a small profit.
He told me he could not touch that price and that the volume is the main reason. Same reason some are getting close to these deals at large volume dealers in CA and CO.
Simple matter of volume...
Thanks. I really appreciate everyone's advice on the dealer shopping. I had assumed similar pricing anywhere. I will be contacting the TX dealer. I'm in Colorado Springs, which has two dealers, but I should try the Denver dealers as well to see what pricing they can offer. I'm looking for '14 JGC Limited 4X4 EcoDiesel LUX2 NAV OR2.
Since you seem concerned about the dealer's business model, be sure to add any "Dealer Prep fees" to their price quote. That's just a another profit to the dealer in another column, and IS NOT universal for all dealers.....
Since you seem concerned about the dealer's business model, be sure to add any "Dealer Prep fees" to their price quote. That's just a another profit to the dealer in another column, and IS NOT universal for all dealers.....
Thanks GunnySpook. I'll be sure ask about dealer prep fees and decide if this is something I should pay extra for. I assume Jeeps are ready to drive out of JNAP -- except fuel, fluids and tire pressure check. Maybe it comes with a wrench and some assembly required but I really don't know until I buy one.
I told them to not wash nor remove any plastic from the interior of mine. Mine still had the chalk writing on the windshield. :lol: I did ask them to wipe that off.
Since I have reached 5,000 miles, towed my trailer 1,200 miles and been camping, I figured I would give a review. For the record, it is a 4x4 Limited with ORAII.
The power at 2000 RPM is awesome: 160hp, nearly 40% more than the 5.3L V8 Chevy I replaced. Fuel economy pulling the trailer is about 37% better (22mpg vs 16mpg). The 8 speed transmission is great. I rarely feel it shift and often see it in 6th or 7th as needed on grades (i. e. - plenty of gears is good). I find it better to run with eco-mode turned off pulling the trailer, and in sport mode on twisty, mountain highways.
The air-lift has been flawless. I really like the idea that the vehicle can be adapted to various conditions. I have used all of the levels as intended. The loud bumps are disconcerting when at off-road levels. My elderly parents like the parking level which makes it easier for them to get in and out.
I like the ventilated seats. I find it a pain that they default to off each time I turn off the engine. I like the heated steering wheel and seats too. I find the AC a little wimpy. We will see how well it works this summer in Tucson. The rear-view camera makes it a cinch to back up to the trailer.
The satellite radio and TravelLink are cool; I am not sure if I will keep them. This is my first experience with a Navigation system. I understand its limitations and still use paper maps as well, so I have no issues with it. I like to use the USB memory port. I use an NTFS formatted, 64GB module with about 400 CDs ripped at 320bps. Works great. I have also used FAT32 formatted, 32GB modules.
Too bad I had to buy the sun roof with the diesel. I never open it and probably never will. I do use the 120v AC outlet. I actually plugged in a power strip to it so I can plug in multiple devices and access 120v AC easier with the back seats folded down.
I have done nine (9) full-day trips. I have not been uncomfortable or become tired of sitting. Thus, I can say that the seats are good. I originally thought they were kind of hard and rather wide for me, but I have been very comfortable driving all day.
I am rather concerned about the reliability and ruggedness. I have had a couple intermittent/false errors and have seen the DEF level jump around. I tend to go to back country locations where it is not reasonable to be in limp-mode, have to regen the exhaust, get towed, or have to visit the dealer for service. I also have an issue with the oil level, but I think I will put that in another post.
Quick review of my new limited 2X4 after a few days. I went to pick it up from the dealer and took it for a test drive. The check engine light and Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) Light came on with 25miles on the ODO! I had to leave it with service and take a loaner home. The next day I went back and picked it up. They said the DEF was overfilled??? If it was they sure did drain a lot of it out because it was under half full and I had to add 2.5 gallons on my 2nd or 3rd day of owning it. Other than that I love this Jeep. It drives amazing and better that just about any vehicle i've ever driven. Tons of torque, smooth, quiet. I just hope that I don't have any more trouble with it any time soon.
1) I did not. I always treat having to use a spare as an immediate trip to a repair location and I expect the diff to handle it no sweat. However someone else, I cant recall who, reported that it does fit if you remove the trays.
2) I did not... but I find that extremely unlikely.
Wow!
I LOVE THIS CAR!!
After about 45 miles of city driving around Houston, we drove back to Kerrville today at the limit (65 to 75mph) with occasional excursions into the higher rpm band and recorded 25.3mpg with a total journey of just over 295 miles.
Really got to know the systems on the way home, thanks to Will's UConnect 101 at the dealership. Very easy and intuitive once you understand the buttons on the steering wheel and how to navigate through it. Loved the ACC...worked really well on the 2 line setting on I-10 at 70mph. Sound system is pretty darn good too....Bohemian Rhapsody at level 32 was AWESOME!!
We are taking "Smiffy" on a road trip to Big Bend shortly and will put over 1000 miles on him. Deb REALLY loves the JGC and wants to drive it and the open roads of West Texas will be a great learning ground for her.
I went over the car when we got home and couldn't find a darn thing to crap about! I put the new Husky Weatherbeater mats in (the tan looks great with the Brown/Frost interior) and will install the wheel locks and new pedal covers tomorrow. Then the fun starts.....an anal polishing and waxing !
White, 2014 GC Limited Diesel+all bells and whistles availabe-Stock except tinted front windows and clear bra
Averaging 27 - 28 MPG mixed driving. I have filled up 3 times and have close to 2K miles since late February. Each tank I'm getting 600+ miles out of
So far... I LOVE my GC! Mileage is night and day from my 05 xterre Offroad averaging 16 MPG.
Love all the features and am experiencing some of the small tech quirks ( going to address with dealer soon) everyone is complainig about, but so far they are minor in comparison to the driving and MPG experience.
Fingers crossed and hope to run her for atleast 10 years:thumbsup:
We took our first road trip out on the open roads. Acceleration for passing is not an issue, even at 70-80 MPH.
Our 2008 CRD with the 5-speed tranny would run 2,000 RPM at 55 MPH. In 8th gear, 2000 RPM = 77 MPH which helps result in a quieter ride on the highway.
So I just had my 2nd oil change and my wife had driven it for 154 miles before I did and I noticed increased engine noise started checking things found out they shorted me 2 quarts at the dealership does anyone know if this can cause trouble because with oil added noise is still present? Thanks in advance
Wow! Get this documented with the dealer immediately, low oil can cause any number failures due to improper lubrication both near and long term. Do not delay. Keep your receipt for the oil you purchased. Should there be a next time do not add the oil when you have been shorted until its documented.
I have had my JGC ECODiesel for about 2 months. I love this vehicle. No trips to the dealer for anything. It is smooth, pleasant sounding, effortless, powerful and economical. The diesel engine and 8 speed transmission are a well matched set of exquisitely engineered mechanical equipment. I have had no issues with the Jeep's performance, reliability and value - 10/10. I am confident that with reasonable care it will last many years.
The NAV is easy to use coming from a Garmin background. The big screen and map detail are nice. The use of the EVIC screen to show turn details has proven to be smart. The phone is thoughtfully integrated into the radio and other controls. Fit and finish are excellent and no paint issues.
Have 2800+ miles on it with average measured MPG of 27.5. I am getting more than 600 miles on each tank full. This is all local mileage -town, interstate and rural-no trip over 60 miles. The best tankful has been 28.9 MPG with more rural driving. I can not wait for a long interstate trip. The EVIC has been fairly accurate - average of 0.3 MPG higher than my calculations.
Rotating thru the EVIC gauges has become second nature. The oil life is gauge is telling me that my stop and go driving will require my first oil change at 5000 miles. The DEF gauge is indicating normal DEF usage of 1 gallon/1000miles. I have not had any hilly driving or towing to do yet.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4 X 2
Maximum Steel Metallic / Black
Luxury Group II
Trailer Tow Group IV
Uconnect 8.4AN
20" wheels
My wife is a petite woman. The Jeep has a high step up. I think I will invest in running boards and splash guards.
lol My wife said something along the lines of "If you buy some running boards I wont in any way complain.." which is somewhat unusual. The normal situation is I say "I need a new bass boat" and she says "no".
Jimbo
Be sure if you have not already used the exit/entry feature to lower the ride down. My SO is 5'3" and she can get in the Jeep just fine but much easier with lower feature. We avoided like the plague the roll bar step as it was slippery and gets your pants dirty. The running boards that are flat would work fine like I had in my Super Duty.
I agree with your comments. I had a dent in the pass seat which is mostly straightened out on its own and the fuel door on top still sticks out but not sure if that is something that can be fixed. My EVIC is very accurate showing maybe 0.3 mpg optimistic as you reported on yours.
My DEF after the same mileage shows maybe 1 1/2 gallons used which is a guess given the gage and my oil change is going to happen around 7000 miles because of mostly highway driving when I first got it.
We test drove a GC with running board while waiting for ours to be shipped, they seemed to get in the way more than help getting in and out. Maybe they are something you learn to use if you have them, but we just use the entry/exit mode and it seems to work for me and my wife (she is 5'4")
355Jimbo's GC is a 4x2 so it doesn't have air suspension. Running boards may be a good idea. One of the pluses to running boards is acting as a splash guard to keep crud off the lower quarter panels. My Maximum Steel color shows dirty pretty bad. I don't have boards but a friend does and theirs stays much cleaner.
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