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Re: 2014 GC "EcoDiesel" OWNERS!!! Review..

365 miles--mix of city and highway driving 29.4 mpg. in eco mode. Have the cat piss smell! Great vehicle--worth the wait.
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365 miles--mix of city and highway driving 29.4 mpg. in eco mode. Have the cat piss smell! Great vehicle--worth the wait.
Cat piss? Is it because of the urea? Does it eventually goes away? I am reading more and more post about this problem and I am getting a little concerned...
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Cat piss? Is it because of the urea? Does it eventually goes away? I am reading more and more post about this problem and I am getting a little concerned...
Now that I have close to 1000 miles I will tell you I don't smell anything anymore. It smelled awful for the first 300, then a few more hundreds of miles and it was better. Now I can stand behind my truck and sit with my face near the tailpipe and I smell nothing at all.
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So far, lucky. No bad smell. Just did a 60 mile mostly freeway trip. Kept it generally between 60 and 70mph in moderate traffic. 32.1mpg on EVIC. ACC worked perfectly. Amazing. What an incredible ride for this size vehicle. Am itching to get it into the mountains and on some challenging roads. Next weekend.
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I'm curious if those who are commenting on the turbo lag have tried turning eco mode off? I definitely notice, especially from a dead stop, that there is a fair lag before the butt gets sucked into the seat with eco mode on, but when I turned eco mode off it was much less noticeable. Instead of virtually no power initially, I found it pulling pretty well, and then it started pulling even more.

And when not going from a dead-stop, especially when in sport mode, I don't really notice a lag.

I think at least some of the lag is more about the computer mappings in eco mode than the turbo.
Oh ya, I hope someone figures out a way to have the ECO mode switch remember the previous setting and not come on be default every startup. That is pretty annoying..
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More updates to this thing than a bloody ipad!

What does the update fix? I haven't really realized any problems with the shift points...
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Oh ya, I hope someone figures out a way to have the ECO mode switch remember the previous setting and not come on be default every startup. That is pretty annoying..
I have read a few post about this. Nothing can be done.
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Introduction / Delivery

Like many other's, I've been eagerly waiting for the Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel to be released. I learned to drive in a Wrangler, and grew an appreciation for off-roading at an early age. I considered buying a Wrangler about 8 years ago, but was turned off by the poor fuel efficiency. My Jeep would need to go long distances just as easily as it can go off road. When the EcoDiesel was announced, I was sold instantly. With the improved interior and fine-tuned exterior, all doubts left my mind as to what I wanted.

Delivery of my GC was effortless and nearly flawless. I noticed only four tiny issues during delivery: A tiny chip in the bumper, some blue 'dust' on the carpet between the B pillar and the front passenger seat, a piece of the rear seat leather needed to be pushed down into place near the 60/40 split, and a piece of carpet improperly routed under the sidewall under the dash on the passenger side. The dealer did not fill the gas tank or the DEF tank, and based on the literature that came with the truck that indicates the DEF tank should be filled, I will be lodging a complaint with Chrysler. Besides this minor issue, this was my best experience buying a car so far, and I highly recommend Jim Povio at Stoneridge Chrysler.

Exterior 9/10

I love the front end of this truck. It looks at place in the dirt as well as the city. While I considered the red, and the blue, the Granite Crystal Metallic color just pops on the GC. Apart from the small chip on the bumper, I've not noticed any issues with the paint. I'm not a big fan of chrome, and there is certainly more on this truck than I would prefer, but the rear brow and door lettering change for this year looks just about right. I plan on plastidiping the chrome in the near future. The 18's that come with ORA2 are nice, much preferable to the 20's, but still not quite 'tough' enough for me.

My only gripe about the exterior is the rear end. It's just a bit bland to me and could use a little more personality. The tail lights are better than the previous year, but it still leaves something to be desired. On the topic of tail lights, my passenger side tail lights are ever so slightly closer than the driver side, but they do not touch, and don't appear to be a problem.

Interior 9.5/10

The interior fit and finish is superb. The leather dash looks great, especially with the stitching. The leather smell that permeates the interior is one of my favorite smells. The leather/wood steering wheel is just awesome. It has a good girth to it, and feels solid. The leather is soft, and the wood is smooth, it feels awesome in your hands. The heated function for the steering wheel works faster than I would have expected, and has been used several times this week. I wasn't sure I liked the center stack when I test drove the Jeep and saw pictures, but it has really grown on me. The Uconnect radio is just awesome. The interface is easy to use and responsive. I would prefer to have more physical buttons for things like heated seats, but it really is just a minor complaint. I have used almost every input method for audio, and they all work well. The settings screen was a little hard to get to, but once I found it, it was easy to navigate. I'm having an issue with the settings immediately being de-selected after I select them, but I'm hoping a Uconnect update will solve that. The sound system is of decent quality. I'm sure the HK system is better, but I'm more than satisfied with what came in my Overland. The sunroof is great, though I definitely need to find the sweet spot to prevent buffeting. Noise levels inside the cabin with the windows up are amazing.

Powertrain 9/10

The 3.0L Diesel puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I get looks from people, surprised to hear a diesel under the hood. I love the muted diesel clatter at idle and low speeds, and when you get to freeway speeds, it turns into a growl indistinguishable from a gasser. This really give the Jeep a tough feeling. Maybe it's just in my mind, but that's fine with me! I'm getting the hang of the throttle, though I still need a bit more time to master it. Most of the time I drive in Eco, and it definitely seems to be a bit slow to react from a stop in Eco mode. This is easily overcome with a bit more throttle, or dropping her into sport mode. Even in sport mode there is a bit of a hesitation while the turbo spools up, but it is far less noticeable than my 2.5L turbo in my Subaru. The transmission is very smooth. During medium acceleration it shifts into second gear a hair before I would prefer, but after that the shifts are nearly seamless. More than enough power has always been available when I needed it. Whether entering the freeway, passing, or just giving it a good thwomp from a stop sign, This powerplant delivers! The fuel economy is amazing. I drove a 90% highway 35 mile trip with a net 400 foot drop in elevation, and a couple hills in between, and achieved 32MPG. The return trip in grueling bumper to bumper traffic (ACC made this much more bearable than my manual Subaru) dropped the round trip average to 26mpg. ACC tends to be fairly aggressive in traffic, had I not used ACC and drove more conservatively in traffic, I bet I could have added 1-2 MPG to that round trip number.

There was certainly a smell associated with the engine running for the first few hundred miles. I wouldn't say it smells like cat pee, but you can tell somethings being burned off. I'm at 250 miles now, and not a single hint of the smell.

Ride and Handling 9.5/10

I took a drive yesterday through some back roads to test the responsiveness of the engine and transmission. I was pleasantly surprised by how competent the GC is on-road. The ride is relatively soft, but holds well in the corners with a lot less body roll than I expected. The air suspension has worked well, though I notice it has been telling me "Normal ride height achieved" at times when I can't explain why it wasn't at normal ride height to being with. I'll have to keep an eye on it, but I'm guessing I'm just not aware of everything it is doing.

I don't have specific complaints about the handling or ride, but I feel a 10/10 should be reserved for something simply spectacular. This is not to say I don't think the ride and handling aren't great, they truly are.

Electronics, Gidgets and Gazmos 10/10

I am so infatuated with the technology in the Grand Cherokee. I have had the forward collision alert go off at one point while I was coming up on another car quickly in order to prevent the left turn light from turning yellow/red before I was able to turn. It did not brake, as this feature was apparently not turned on by default. While pulling out of my driveway, I noticed a car coming down the street and stopped to let him by, well before it would have been a problem, the rear cross path alert notified me of the car coming. The Adaptive Cruise Control is simply spectacular. This is easily the most anticipated feature for me, as I will use it all the time. Apart from bumper to bumper traffic (where it is actually not recommended to be used) it achieves the perfect balance of aggressiveness and conservation. Turning on your blinker to go around someone instantly triggers acceleration, and with 420 lb/ft of torque, it doesn't take much to get up and go. The blind spot detection is also a well appreciated feature. While it is important to still check your blind spots, this system gives you a quick and easy indication of whats around you.

Closing thoughts

I'm certainly not the most critical person of the GC out there. I like the Jeep brand, and I was prejudiced before I even picked it up. With that said, I couldn't be happier with my purchase, and I have plenty of friends who are now convinced that the Diesel Grand Cherokee will be their next ride. I hope this feeling lasts for years to come!

Overall: 9.5/10

And of course, a BIG Thank You to all of the folks at JNAP who made this beast possible, and those who support the GC fan club here on JG whom make the wait intolerable (due to the excessive amount of information available! ) You are turning out a top-notch product, and should be proud of what you do every day.
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The air suspension has worked well, though I notice it has been telling me "Normal ride height achieved" at times when I can't explain why it wasn't at normal ride height to being with. I'll have to keep an eye on it, but I'm guessing I'm just not aware of everything it is doing.
Maybe it is going out of aero mode.
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Maybe it is going out of aero mode.
Yeah that's what I was thinking, as that's the only mode it should go into automatically. I'll have to pay more attention and see what I'm missing.
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Introduction / Delivery

Like many other's, I've been eagerly waiting for the Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel to be released. I learned to drive in a Wrangler, and grew an appreciation for off-roading at an early age. I considered buying a Wrangler about 8 years ago, but was turned off by the poor fuel efficiency. My Jeep would need to go long distances just as easily as it can go off road. When the EcoDiesel was announced, I was sold instantly. With the improved interior and fine-tuned exterior, all doubts left my mind as to what I wanted.

Delivery of my GC was effortless and nearly flawless. I noticed only four tiny issues during delivery: A tiny chip in the bumper, some blue 'dust' on the carpet between the B pillar and the front passenger seat, a piece of the rear seal lether needed to be pushed down into place near the 60/40 split, and a piece of carpet improperly routed under the sidewall under the dash on the passenger side. The dealer did not fill the gas tank or the DEF tank, and based on the literature that came with the truck that indicates the DEF tank should be filled, I will be lodging a complaint with Chrysler. Besides this minor issue, this was my best experience buying a car so far, and I highly recommend Jim Povio at Stoneridge Chrysler.

Exterior 9/10

I love the front end of this truck. It looks at place in the dirt as well as the city. While I considered the red, and the blue, the Granite Crystal Metallic color just pops on the GC. Apart from the small chip on the bumper, I've not noticed any issues with the paint. I'm not a big fan of chrome, and there is certainly more on this truck than I would prefer, but the rear brow and door lettering change for this year looks just about right. I plan on plastidiping the chrome in the near future. The 18's that come with ORA2 are nice, much preferable to the 20's, but still not quite 'tough' enough for me.

My only gripe about the exterior is the rear end. It's just a bit bland to me and could use a little more personality. The tail lights are better than the previous year, but it still leaves something to be desired. On the topic of tail lights, my passenger side tail lights are ever so slightly closer than the driver side, but they do not touch, and don't appear to be a problem.

Interior 9.5/10

The interior fit and finish is superb. The leather dash looks great, especially with the stitching. The leather smell that permeates the interior is one of my favorite smells. The leather/wood steering wheel is just awesome. It has a good girth to it, and feels solid. The leather is soft, and the wood is smooth, it feels awesome in your hands. The heated function for the steering wheel works faster than I would have expected, and has been used several times this week. I wasn't sure I liked the center stack when I test drove the Jeep and saw pictures, but it has really grown on me. The Uconnect radio is just awesome. The interface is easy to use and responsive. I would prefer to have more physical buttons for things like heated seats, but it really is just a minor complaint. I have used almost every input method for audio, and they all work well. The settings screen was a little hard to get to, but once I found it, it was easy to navigate. I'm having an issue with the settings immediately being de-selected after I select them, but I'm hoping a Uconnect update will solve that. The sound system is of decent quality. I'm sure the HK system is better, but I'm more than satisfied with what came in my Overland. The sunroof is great, though I definitely need to find the sweet spot to prevent buffeting. Noise levels inside the cabin with the windows up are amazing.

Powertrain 9/10

The 3.0L Diesel puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I get looks from people, surprised to hear a diesel under the hood. I love the muted diesel clatter at idle and low speeds, and when you get to freeway speeds, it turns into a growl indistinguishable from a gasser. This really give the Jeep a tough feeling. Maybe it's just in my mind, but that's fine with me! I'm getting the hang of the throttle, though I still need a bit more time to master it. Most of the time I drive in Eco, and it definitely seems to be a bit slow to react from a stop in Eco mode. This is easily overcome with a bit more throttle, or dropping her into sport mode. Even in sport mode there is a bit of a hesitation while the turbo spools up, but it is far less noticeable than my 2.5L turbo in my Subaru. The transmission is very smooth. During medium acceleration it shifts into second gear a hair before I would prefer, but after that the shifts are nearly seamless. More than enough power has always been available when I needed it. Whether entering the freeway, passing, or just giving it a good thwomp from a stop sign, This powerplant delivers! The fuel economy is amazing. I drove a 90% highway 35 mile trip with a net 400 foot drop in elevation, and a couple hills in between, and achieved 32MPG. The return trip in grueling bumper to bumper traffic (ACC made this much more bearable than my manual Subaru) dropped the round trip average to 26mpg. ACC tends to be fairly aggressive in traffic, had I not used ACC and drove more conservatively in traffic, I bet I could have added 1-2 MPG to that round trip number.

There was certainly a smell associated with the engine running for the first few hundred miles. I wouldn't say it smells like cat pee, but you can tell somethings being burned off. I'm at 250 miles now, and not a single hint of the smell.

Ride and Handling 9.5/10

I took a drive yesterday through some back roads to test the responsiveness of the engine and transmission. I was pleasantly surprised by how competent the GC is on-road. The ride is relatively soft, but holds well in the corners with a lot less body roll than I expected. The air suspension has worked well, though I notice it has been telling me "Normal ride height achieved" at times when I can't explain why it wasn't at normal ride height to being with. I'll have to keep an eye on it, but I'm guessing I'm just not aware of everything it is doing.

I don't have specific complaints about the handling or ride, but I feel a 10/10 should be reserved for something simply spectacular. This is not to say I don't think the ride and handling aren't great, they truly are.

Electronics, Gidgets and Gazmos 10/10

I am so infatuated with the technology in the Grand Cherokee. I have had the forward collision alert go off at one point while I was coming up on another car quickly in order to prevent the left turn light from turning yellow/red before I was able to turn. It did not brake, as this feature was apparently not turned on by default. While pulling out of my driveway, I noticed a car coming down the street and stopped to let him by, well before it would have been a problem, the rear cross path alert notified me of the car coming. The Adaptive Cruise Control is simply spectacular. This is easily the most anticipated feature for me, as I will use it all the time. Apart from bumper to bumper traffic (where it is actually not recommended to be used) it achieves the perfect balance of aggressiveness and conservation. Turning on your blinker to go around someone instantly triggers acceleration, and with 420 lb/ft of torque, it doesn't take much to get up and go. The blind spot detection is also a well appreciated feature. While it is important to still check your blind spots, this system gives you a quick and easy indication of whats around you.

Closing thoughts

I'm certainly not the most critical person of the GC out there. I like the Jeep brand, and I was prejudiced before I even picked it up. With that said, I couldn't be happier with my purchase, and I have plenty of friends who are now convinced that the Diesel Grand Cherokee will be their next ride. I hope this feeling lasts for years to come!

Overall: 9.5/10

And of course, a BIG Thank You to all of the folks at JNAP who made this beast possible, and those who support the GC fan club here on JG whom make the wait intolerable (due to the excessive amount of information available! ) You are turning out a top-notch product, and should be proud of what you do every day.
Looks gorgeous, big fan of that color.
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