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Re: 2015 Deliveries?

So a quick update. The dealer replaced the injection pump and the leak seems to have stopped but they still have the hose on backorder. Apparently the hose to injector coupling was "too loose" and leaking. The tech said the new injector to existing hose was a much tighter connection with no significant play. So I am still guessing bad batch of DEF injectors was the hold up

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So a quick update. The dealer replaced the injection pump and the leak seems to have stopped but they still have the hose on backorder. Apparently the hose to injector coupling was "too loose" and leaking. The tech said the new injector to existing hose was a much tighter connection with no significant play. So I am still guessing bad batch of DEF injectors was the hold up
Great news...and not so great news. Who else is included in this group of faulty injectors? Mine is an early build as well and should arrive at the dealer this week. I will make certain it is checked before pickup. Thanks for the update.
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Re: 2015 Deliveries?

Well I can finally print out my window sticker online. I guess that means the Jeeps on its way here. I have a ETA of 12/21. Maybe Ill get an early Xmas gift. Lets hope that Injector problem is just a fluke...
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Croft when did you place your order? I placed mine Oct 14, 2014. I have been in D1 Gatelined scheduled since the end of October according to Jeep. But the dealer said it has been built and placed in storage. I can't get a straight answer. Just want to get a feel when you ordered to see if mine will be built before the shutdown. Thanks MIke
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Croft when did you place your order? I placed mine Oct 14, 2014. I have been in D1 Gatelined scheduled since the end of October according to Jeep. But the dealer said it has been built and placed in storage. I can't get a straight answer. Just want to get a feel when you ordered to see if mine will be built before the shutdown. Thanks MIke

Ordered Oct 24th and went into D1 Oct 31. Have you called jeep directly? They will know exactly where your jeep is.


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Just got called from the dealership. Our gc is the dealership's lot. Any advice for what we should inspect before driving it home?
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Day 10 in "inspection" at Flatrock Auto Auction. Oh please let whatever part that is supposed to be on it but is not come in and pass inspection so we can get this puppy on a choo choo coming south.

My estimated delivery date remains December 16. I reckon we might miss that.

Is Flatrock Auto Auction a big parking lot or an enclosed series of buildings? Just want to know if we're getting a cloud tan (because we know it's not sunny in Detroit this time of year) or if we're just sitting in snow drifts.
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Olivia_2015: Doubt you'll have any problems, enjoy the Jeep and don't worry!

But, if you live a ways from a dealer or are really nervous, I would be to ask them if they looked under the vehicle and made sure there were no signs of leaks, especially with the DEF system **after** they did their test drive.

Our problem didn't cause an engine code until the wife was on the highway... even though it had been leaking all along. Apparently that's "normal" (not the leaking, but not setting the code!) To quote from the DTC for "P20EE-00SCR NOX CATALYST EFFICIENCY BELOW THRESHOLD BANK 1" (our stored error)
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The PCM requires specific engine and after-treatment conditions to be met to run and complete this monitor. There are several other criteria for monitoring this DTC including: ambient temperature exceeding -7.0C (19.4F), NOx Sensors are active, altitude is lower than 6,800 feet, and the vehicle has been driven at steady highway speeds for a sufficient amount of time. NOx sensor data is gathered over varying engine speeds and loads. When enough data has been gathered, the diagnostic will run, make a pass/fail decision, and begin to gather data again.
That "... the vehicle has been driven at steady highway speeds for a sufficient amount of time" is what got us. Idling in the service bay or stop/go traffic or other non-highway traffic won't necessarily cause the system to check.

The P20EE code seems to be the generic "catch all" for the DEF system not working when the computer can't identify a particular fault. The diagnostic protocol for the error is:
  1. Leaks
  2. Bad DEF
  3. Check injector for amount of DEF it sprays in a fixed test cycle
  4. Check for restricted hose (someone mentioned a kink hose in one of the recent threads)
  5. Check amount of fluid the DEF pump can pump in a fixed test cycle with the injector removed
  6. Run a "healing cycle" (desoot etc.)

So it's the "catch all" when it can't figure out what's not right, but it knows something is not right. Given the code isn't set until sustained highway speeds, I would just make sure the DEF line isn't leaking anywhere.

Personally, even if I bought a new one tomorrow, I would just drive it off the lot and not worry about it... Friday/Saturday ordeal didn't change my mind. I'm an optimist
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I have been sitting at "I" for 14 days with zero updates. Everyone else at least moved to a different facility. I'm just sitting in limbo somewhere. It's like they pulled it off to the side after building it and abandoned it somewhere??
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I have been sitting at "I" for 14 days with zero updates. Everyone else at least moved to a different facility. I'm just sitting in limbo somewhere. It's like they pulled it off to the side after building it and abandoned it somewhere??
When did you order the car? We ordered ours October 24th. However the config paper shows that the order was received by Jeep November 2nd. Please check if you can print the window sticker. We were able to view the window sticker last Thursday for
the first time. The car arrived in today.
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As soon as they start stocking these things I will get rid of the 14 for the 15 .

Finally these guys are starting to get to ppl
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